Scientists Prove That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense

"Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fancies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing." - Hypatia of Alexandria (370 - 415 AD)

WASHINGTON DC – USA – Scientists at the Institute of Historical Research have finally released their findings after five years of dedicated research.

The scientists, headed by Doctor Julius Sanreso, welcomed the research findings and said that it would be in the interests of those who believe in such nonsense as organised religion or creationism to accept the fact that religious books were written by men as a control system.

“Just think for one second, if ‘God’ or a ‘messenger of God’ had written that particular religious book/bible, how come the writings only occur within a very limited period in human history? Also, consider the fact, that a human writing on a piece of paper, or a few pieces of paper, is not the word of ‘God’. If they were really written by a universal God or entity, the books would not be limited to some pre-medievel costume drama but would encompass all universality, history, the future and science. Language is something created by man, not an all-seeing, all encompassing entity. God would presumably be universal and timeless as well as all-knowing, as is the universe, therefore these man-written books and scriptures, are just that, man-written linguistically created nonsense used to control men and women thousands of years ago. Why would ‘God’ write anything anyway? One must consider the fact that, even now, there are religious zealots and ordinary people still entrenched in a control belief system that is so far removed from reality that it borders on madness. There is no rational or scientific way that organised religions can have a modicum of truth or factual reality because of the very reason that these books are entombed in the time that they were written. These books should therefore simply be viewed as limited parables and historical fiction, as well as a lesson in how millions of people can be so easily controlled.”

The research paper also came to the conclusion that reward/punishment religions, as control systems, were losing their grip on most of the population of the world and only a few die-hard fanatics and delusional maniacs were carrying on with the flame of idiocy.

“The game is up for all religions, how long can this sham carry on, with their ridiculous outdated ceremonies? The priests are deceivers, and they need to come up with some pretty radical solutions to their thousand year old magic trick. People aren’t as dumb or easily swayed as they used to be thousands of years ago, they actually have reasoning powers and can see through the utter nonsense of organised control systems like religion.”

The problem for the world’s political leaders, is that slowly, humans who were controlled for so many years by fictitious writings, may suddenly lose their controlled ‘faith’. This could be quite dangerous, because it would mean that these people would suddenly wake up and realise that they have been fooled for so long by being communally hypnotised.

“We must ensure that the people who have been fooled for so long by fictitious belief systems utilised to control humans do not get too angry when they realise that what they believe in is nonsense written by humans utilising human created language. This could be dangerous for society, so we must either let them carry on believing their fiction or try to somehow support them when they realise the truth,” Dr Sanreso said.

The research paper will be published in its entirety in 2015.

  • MO

    Can you imagine a world without religion? i can ..and its a world where people are not fighting as much,not judgemental as much and people are more tolerant towards one another! that is the truth… The world is few million years old,the oldest civilization 25 -30 thousand years old …and religion what a mere 2000thousand year old?? something is not right here… where was GOD all the other time ?a long vacation before he decided to tell people he created them and he wishes them to pray and repent otherwise satan will come and kick their ass haha…i really2 cant believe how millions can fall for this trick!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE

    • Sam

      If religion is man made then why would you blame all the atrocities that you do on that one idea rather than saying that it is somehow indicative of who humanity is?

      • Rob

        You idiot, lol, he is saying people do these things in the name of religion, as in, because they believe that their god wants them to do the terrible things they do.
        Mostly, if you take a step back, which seems to be something belivers are incapable of doing, you can see the worst of the above mentioned is normally done by a deranged person who conned his way into power by using religion as a fear tactic (as most religions have an ‘obey or die’ philosophy). Then, once in power, becomes infinitely hungry for more. I guarantee most political figures, even in the US don’t even believe, it just works so ‘god damn’ well why not use it!!!

        • Sam

          What I am saying is that these behaviors do not appear to be limited in anyway to religion. Nationalism, economics, racism all seem to be effective tools for this form of oppression and as a utility to acquire power.

          If you look at the entire working mechanism of how these horrors take place you will see it is not religion unto itself but rather this blind obedience and taking advantage of people’s search for meaning that seems to do it. I submit the Soviets and Chinese as example that are not religious of atrocities committed.

          For those seeking power it is any tool necessary and for true believers it doesn’t have to be god that is believed in.

          And a quick question Rob, if I had started by calling you a moron do you think that my position would be more acceptable to you or that some how I would be more convincing? Or is this not about dialogue and you would rather have a flame war?

          • Rob

            Yeah, China and Russia are exceptions, both in relatively modern times. I did say “normally”, not “always” and stand by that.
            And, yeah name calling is a bit childish I know, but so is saying cows are all purple because my mum told me so, and it was in a book written by someone before I was born… I am yet to see a purple cow, but hey, maybe science could GM one some day, but until then, I believe they are all purple based on those two things alone.
            Sound familiar?
            Oh, and sorry I forgot, if you don’t believe that all cows are purple like I do, then you are lost to eternal hellfire. That is the essential part, apologies for nearly leaving that out.

          • Sam

            I’m apologize but you lost me on the last part.

            The Russian and Chinese experiences are the explicitly non-religious, one could argue religiously anti-religious, but those aren’t the only examples. Manifest Destiny; the common European idea of building empires; the idea of many nations, from the Greek to Chinese, of being the only civilized people and the rest of the world being barbarians; the Mongolians feeling destined to rule the world; and the Empire of Alexander are just a handful of examples of the idea that some people are entitled to power and all that comes with it and some are entitled to nothing or are even subhuman. To put the weight of human atrocity at the feet of one human tool is a gross misrepresentation of what humanity has always done.

            The idea that all atrocities are the result of this one thing does a disservice to the idea of attempting to actual overcome these hurdles. It is as though you blame a rapist’s actions on the fact they were drunk and not because their is something in them that lead them to rape. If you were to eliminate alcohol then you would eliminate that excuse for a number of rapes and maybe a few of the rapes but it certainly wouldn’t stop rape of most of it.

            The question I have is what do you want? The end of rape or the end of the alcohol?

  • Anon

    wow, the autism here, You all gather around dressed in fedoras and trenchcoats right?

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  • Darren Evans

    It’s almost impossible to reason people out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. People of religious faith are generally blind to anything that contradicts their belief systems, no matter how obvious it is that such belief systems are man-made.

    • Sam

      What is obvious?

      • Joevanna

        Clearly he said its obvious that belief systems are man made. Which is true.

        • Sam

          I am afraid I still don’t see how it is obvious. I guess that would mean that it isn’t actually obvious, right? Or perhaps obvious doesn’t mean what I think it means.

          Obvious is defined by Merriam-Webster as:
          – easy to see or notice
          – easy for the mind to understand or recognize

          So how is it easy to recognize that religion is man made? Is it because man is the only creature to practice it (to the current best of our knowledge)? What of science or human rights or dignity or respect or language or slavery or war or cars or architecture or ? Are these obviously man made as well?

          Only man practices science so it must be man made obviously. Math is only practiced by man so it must be obviously man made.

          Language isn’t so obviously man made as the range of vocal interactions between other animals such as dolphins, apes, and canines.

          Or what of slavery? We don’t see mass scale oppression of animals by other animals they way we do amongst man. But we have evidence that shows the domination of animals by other animals, the foundation of slavery. So is slavery man-made or just the culmination of inherent patterns developed by man?

          Is this same ability to develop the real root of religion? Are these “man made” religions merely just the development of inherent patterns and behaviors that predate man? Or are they attempts to reason out the understanding of phenomenon like math and science are?

          If you ask a conservative what is obvious about marriage they will most likely state that marriage is obviously between one man and one woman. If you were to ask the same of a liberal you most likely will get that marriage is obviously an agreement between two people, regardless of gender. What if you were to ask an anarchist? Would they state that marriage is obviously an institution of human oppression? What other obvious opinions exist on marriage. I suppose we can obviously state that it is man made, yes?

          What about slavery? For thousands and thousands or years it was obvious that one man or set of men dominating and enslaving another was right and now in the last two centuries it has become obvious that such things are wrong. How could something so obvious be overturned?

          What of the sun. It obviously rises on the horizon. Obviously. Go look for yourself. You will see that it obviously moves across the sky and sets in the evening. But such obvious data is not correct is it? From space it becomes obvious that we are in fact on a satellite that is rotating around the sun and that we are in fact the ones turning and it is not the sun that causes night and day.

          What of solid matter? Your hand is obviously solid. If you touch your keyboard they push against one another and do not pass through each other. But when you zoom in you find that in fact your hand, the keyboard, and everything else are obviously mostly empty space. How could such obviousness be contradictory?

          But let’s go back to your statement that you are (obviously) defending that belief systems are man made. What is obvious? It is obvious that people have constructs by which to approach the world. We have a wide range of constructs ranging from social structures to understandings of the natural world to assumptions about the meaning of words. How many of these are belief systems? All of them.

          But these belief systems don’t exist in a void. They are a result of mutual interaction between ourselves and the environment. So how much of their workings are actually not man made at all but rather extrapolated from the environment. Perhaps our understanding and interpretation is man made then, except the evidence continues to grow that we are in fact not nearly in control of our thoughts as we would like to believe. So how many of our blind spots do we say are man made but in fact are not at all?

          Now your belief system (perhaps obviously man made) leads you to testify as to what is true. As I have show above such assumptions are dangerous and not actually in accord with reality or fact, necessarily.

          Taking the position that something is obviously true is the same behavior that lead to horrors by all kinds of people from Orthodox religionists, to anti-religionists, to rapists. So many people claim this mantle of truth that just examining them in contrast would disprove all of them.

          So how it is obvious? And for that matter how it is true. Perhaps God told you? Or do you have evidence that shows the obvious? Although as I have shown the obvious is not necessarily accurate. And what of this truth that you posses. What evidence do you have to prove it is true? If it is your best guess you can admit that. There is nothing wrong with that but claiming it to be true is the foundation of atrocity.

          Thank you.

          • Andrew Dalgleish

            “Obvious is defined by Merriam-Webster as:
            – easy to see or notice”
            Darren Evans said “People of religious faith are generally blind to anything that contradicts their belief systems, no matter how obvious…”

            Therefore it would appear you are a person of religious faith and blind to the obvious.

          • Sam

            Who is Darren Evans? Why is he an authority?

            Whenever you are questioned or the logic or foundation of your argument is questioned are you always dismissive? If someone disagrees with you or doesn’t understand how you developed your argument is your first response to write them off? That, to me, is indicative of how one who is “blind to anything that contradicts their belief systems, no matter how obvious” would respond.

            Do you not see the irony of your dismissal when your position is questioned. Isn’t that really the uncritical thinking that we are attempting to get away from? I get tired of people, regardless of the subject or the position, relying on the “obvious”. This is a fundamental danger to the development of contemporary thought. Atheistic and quasi-skeptical thinking has become en vogue but seems to have as much foundation as many theists beliefs.

            Carl Sagan or Issac Asimov would never let you just get away with shoddy thinking. They firmly based their thought on inquiry, skepticism, and continual question rather than the shoddy traditional thinking most often attributed to religious thinkers. The same sort of zealous conceptual framework that fortifies Talibanic minds infests the pop culture atheists.

            If you have a position it needs to be support more than by “it’s obvious” otherwise so much of modern understanding needs to be thrown out. So do you have more than it’s obvious or are you going to lean on the same crutch that racist, religionists, nationalist, and enslavers have for millennia?

          • Andrew Dalgleish

            Some things are obvious. Gravity works downwards, the sun is hot, religions are man made. These things are no longer worthy of extended debate. In any case, as there are over 2000 religions in the world and there can be only one true religion then the rest would have to be man made. So even IF one of them happens to be right (and the onus is on the claimant to provide proof of the claim!) then the statement is still more than 99.95% accurate. Plus god visited me in a dream and told me he doesn’t exist and I believe him.

          • Sam

            Isn’t up and down man made concepts, like you assert that religion is? So how would it be obvious?

            How is it obvious that the sun is hot? Did you know that ice cream sales and murders increase together? Does that mean that obviously increased ice cream sales cause murders or vice versa? What correlations do you assume are causation that means the sun is obviously hot?

            Why can only one religion be true? Where does this assumption come from?

            If God or god or the Gods or the gods or the goddess or the Goddess or the wikiwikigaganagitalaka appeared to you in a dream good for you but that doesn’t suffice as evidence of anything. And how could the paradox that you assert took place actually happen? Such a paradox is “obviously” not possible. Or is the nature of reality actually one where the “obvious” proves nothing? If that is your new assertion then so be it but at least be honest with yourself.

            If you are just making faith based claims that’s fine as well. Just own up to it. If you cannot support any assertion you are making then say so. Say “I believe what I believe not because of evidence but because of faith.” It will be liberating for.

            Of course the most amusing part for me is your statement “[t]hese things are no longer worthy of extended debate.” An interesting statement to say as you perpetuate the discussion. Perhaps the most effective way to “say” that is to not say anything at all.

  • Lawrence

    The religious maniacs are too far gone. There is nothing anyone or anything can do about them.

  • Christ is Our Savior

    The Trinity- the Holy Spirit helps us rise above the level of animals. Empathy, Wisdom, Forgiveness are its province.

    • Christian killers

      Yeah you mean like this..
      http://news.yahoo.com/800-babies-buried-septic-tank-irish-home-unmarried-143858913.html;_ylt=AwrBJR51S49T028AEVXQtDMD

      Dublin (AFP) – Almost 800 babies and children were buried in a mass grave in Ireland near a home for unmarried mothers run by nuns, according to new research Wednesday which throws more light on the Irish Catholic Church’s troubled past.

      SHAME ON YOU

    • skat

      The Holy spirit, lol. Its called free will, we are all wired to understand that we are not to harm one another unless being attacked. Do you think animals believe in holy spirits? But yet they protect thier offspring and only hunt and kill out of necessity and have a general rule respect for others. Actually animals are better than humans in most cases, less brainwashed and pure.

      • Sam

        Dolphins rape each other…

  • Tony

    If there was no God or Jesus how come churches exist. There is a God otherwise people would not believe in him. C’mon you non believers answer me that?

    • Tictactoc

      People do not believe in God actually. They believe in people from the past, that said their knowledge came straight from God himself, so that means if you are religious, you believe in people. People you have never seen from a very very long time ago! And there is a God otherwise people would not believe in him? They would! Prove? There are different religions. That proofs that you can believe something that is not true. So, this also means that you would still believe in God and Jesus if it wasn’t true!

      • Sam

        Like atoms, viruses, nuclear physics, California, or (insert thing you have never personally seen)?

        Or what about the Matrix issue? How can you know anything you believe exists actually exists? Or history in general? Or anything?

        And along those lines, how do you know what anyone does or doesn’t believe. I appreciate where you are coming from regarding textual revelation but what about people’s personal experiences?

    • Humanity

      Churches exist because Man likes to make up stories to help them feel comfortable in the unknown. I want to insult you for actually asking a question with no logic behind it. With enough faith; anything can seem real. That’s why faith and belief are a mental illness when it gets too far gone.

    • Sam

      If there was no Zeus and Apollo, who would temples to them exist?

    • nogod

      Because people built them!

    • Joevanna

      Churches are man made. People believe anything these days.

      • Sam

        As opposed to before….?

    • Sam

      Is this satire?

    • Rob

      Dude, if there were no people or animals then how come poo exists?
      Answer is, it didn’t, we made it, just like religion.

  • Let Jesus into your heart

    Satan works in mysterious ways and he has fooled people who do not believe in him. Anyone who doubts Jesus’ teachings is playing into the hands of the Devil. All you people will burn in the fires of eternal damnation for not believing in God and his Only Son. Repent your sins while you still have time as the day of reckoning is almost upon us. We are in the End times now. This piece of work trying to create doubt about religion and worship is the work of the Devil. Repent now. May the evil spirits leave you. Accept Him unto your heart. Repent! May God forgive your souls.

    • Confused of Ascot

      Are you saying that the devil himself wrote this article? Really confused…I don’t get it how could he touch the keyboard, wouldn’t it burn up?

    • hedsy

      Prove it.

      • skat

        Science proves it every time. People only believed in the concept of God because long ago, concepts and theories could not be explained due to lack of understanding and knowledge. So how else explain it as a miracle. Like in todays times, some gets sick, it’s not god or the devil that caused it. It’s an organism, and it is treated with science. Doctors either alleviate or heal the patient. It modern medicine cannot save them, they die. No heaven or hell. Our spirits are a form of energy, I do believe the energy is released upon death to take another form, and not necessarily human. No such thing as heaven and hell.

    • Sam

      How often has this approach worked?

  • HaydenHavok

    To my fellow Atheists: Stop wrestling with pigs. You just get dirty, and they love it. We all understand social construction. They do not. That is why religion is their crux. They dismiss any information that challenges their ideals, while we seek such challenges to enhance the self. It does not matter how much logic, reason, and/or evidence you demonstrate to them because the magnitude of their critical thought is obstructed and limited. Take note that none of these religious comments understand the difference between a scientific method that demonstrates an H1 and H0, and an unsupported empty statement.

    • Sam

      Do you believe that all people who have faith avoid challenges to that their faith and worldview? Are all people of faith unwilling to use empirical experimentation, statistics, and in-depth historical research?

  • PEIN

    If god exist, why don’t you die on a cross and see if you “raise from the dead” .

    • Sam

      I think, as man atheists point out about many Christians, you are missing what they are saying…

  • PEIN

    This page solo’s god neg diff!

  • HomoAtheist

    Religion is simply an ego-tickling drug that helps you survive painful reality.

  • Gospels Truth

    If scientists are so right all the time how can you explain God does NOT exist? Cuz he does. He speaks to me when I prey to him every day and I speak to him. Only Godless ppl do not have a link with God. If you prey he will answer you.

    • D. Mount

      Religion is and always will be BS

    • HomoAtheist

      Yup “he” speaks to you, we know that. ;-)

    • Secularisam

      So was god not listening to the countless victims of religious violence, like burning woman alive calling them witches, or children that get molested and raped even killed. I’m sure they pray hard. I’m sure all of the people in the nazi camps prayed really hard for days and days they even fasted. Was he speaking to them? Listening to them. And if so did he just ignore them and let them suffer? Or let me guess it was part of his plan right. All the rape and murder? So he only listens to you and answers your prayers because you are special. There’s no one there wake up. Your speaking to no one but yourself. Quite honestly it’s madness right next to schizophrenia.

      • Sam

        If God did exists do you think that he would answer all prayers?

    • Secularisam

      Oh and that’s like sayin how can you say fairies don’t exist or leprechauns, mermaids. You can’t prove they don’t just like god doesn’t make it real…

    • soulvac1 .

      ohhhh pleeeeeeeeze wake up!

    • AbsoluteReason

      The statement “God exists” is an absolute which cannot be proven true or false. Science refutes god, that is to say the the evidence shows his existence is unlikely. Additionally scientists don’t presume they have the answer before they ask the question. Further more there is anthropological and social science reasons why people believe in god, that doesn’t prove there is a god, but proves we create gods in our heads.

      • Sam

        What operational definition of God is refuted by science?

        Does the anthropological, social, and even evolutionary reasons that explain why a hypothesis of the divine would have developed disprove the existence of God/gods/whatever?

    • mark leslie

      I think you should go and seek medical advice for you may have a tumour or a chemical imbalance of the brain.for you have deluded hallucinating thinking.good luck

    • LibsNeedMentalHelp

      If you hear a god speaking to you, you need to be on antipsychotic medication.

    • SoTM

      It’s pray, sweetie, not prey. I’m sure god talks to you…..lol.

    • HatdenHavok

      Quantum Fluctuations.

  • Ryan

    So five years of research about $70 million later you come up with a couple of paragraphs taking the piss out of Religion and call it proof? This is total crap where’s the proof? I take the piss out of science all the time, so according to this article logic dictates everything i have said about science is proof that its a fabrication. Fuck Science.
    Anyone can say the moons made from cheese or we come from Apes.
    Sometimes i think that they just sit there smoking opium and publish their hallucinations. I mean your entitled to your opinions but for fuck sake lol

    • HomoAtheist

      Science is the fake and lies, “holy books” are very true and there is the evidence, “god” speaks to me.

    • AbsoluteReason

      “Fuck Science” well i guess you should throw your computer,phone and all other things out of the window because without science none of it would exist. Now lets move to your statements.
      First of all evidence dictates everything in science but looking at it from a strictly logical statement does it make more sense that our species evolved over millions of years or was created in 7 days but a god that no one has ever seen.? The evidence, how about homologous structures, how we share bone structures with Whales, Bats, Dogs, Horses,and Cats. Second, Biogeography: the study of the geographical distribution of
      species and their evolutionary relationships. Species appear to have colonized
      island habitats from mainland areas and then been modified by natural
      selection. I could go on all day but based on your radical ill nature you probable would just ignore it. I’ll leave you with a question how do you explain how we are 98% genetically identical to chimpanzees. You may want to pray on that or you could just look it up, or is that too scientific for you.

      • Sam

        I like but you know a lot of people claim to see God/gods/ghosts/whatever all the time.

    • SoTM

      Lol, the ignorance of religious people is truly an entertaining thing to see. Science is based in fact and proof you fool.

  • Gerard Geitz

    If the Holy Bible was man made as you write in this piece of satire how come Jesus has lasted in the minds of men for thousands of years and will last for as long as we are here on earth and depart from this realm? May the Lord have mercy on your soul. Christianity is the one true word of God and will live forever. You or noone esle can stop the true word of God and our savior Jesus Christ. You have sinned for doubting the words that he spoke and wrote in the Holy Bible. Satan is here now trying to decieve us he will not win. We will truimph over his evil influence.

    • D. Mount

      Fables have lasted in the minds of men, too! Does that make them true, as well?

      • Josh

        Most of the new testament is made up of fables. Fables used by the historically proven philosopher Jesus to teach lessons of humanity in times of religion dictatorship. Religion is man made which is why it is imperfect. The Bible is the word of God but you do not listen to the words of men trying to interpret the word of God for them selves.

        I have struggled many years with the idea of religion how it was created where it came from why we need it. And every answer pointed me to the fact that we don’t we don’t need religion. We do how ever need a teacher to follow in unity a Leader of humble and great teachings if we want what is ultimately desired by all “peace” why wouldn’t we all follow a man who lived to share Love in a hope for ultimate peace. That is what Jesus is too me. Not only was Jesus one of the greatest men mentioned during the time of antiquity he was also a man who has impacted many lives since then.

        • soulvac1 .

          …according to these fables, he also took many innocent lives as well…

          • Sam

            One mans freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist, so who is innocent?

        • Sam

          You have stated that people manipulated social organizations and constructs in order to build the power base that religion can be. They have done this through the willful manipulation, editing, and creation of texts, right? So how do you know that Jesus existed, or if he did, said and did what you believe he did? Why would he be an example? Why him and not so many others who have bucked dictatorships and presented “revolutionary” ideas? Why is the Bible “the Word of God”? From what do you draw these conclusions?

        • nogod

          We can all live in peace and we don’t need a god or a belief to live in peace, I don’t believe in god but I choose to get along with fellow human beings.

    • Mariah

      This is exactly what they’re talking about, the whole getting mad thing. I and much of the world know of the Greek and Roman gods who existed before Christianity, and they’re still not real. Really, the benefits of religion are for the government to control and the weak minded to feel like there is someone who’s always there for them and will love them and listen to them, and to comfort themselves about death by knowing you’ll go to heaven. You will never consider that there is a possibility that there is no god or heaven or Satan because that’s what you were taught since birth and you have been tricked into thinking you need it, into humbling yourself down to the point that you’re worthless compared to god and a sinner, instead of realizing you’re the most important and powerful thing in your life and taking responsibility for it.

      • Sam

        I concur with the self-empowerment of personal responsibility that you speak of.

        Along those lines how do you know that you are not brainwashed, that you haven’t been tricked? Would you consider this possibility?

        Do you think everyone who believes is weak-willed? Do you think that everyone who believes believes they are going to some paradise when they die?

        Do you think there is no strength in humility?

    • Sam

      Zeus still exists in the minds of men.

      The Tao Te Ching is still read by over a billion people.

      The pyramids still stand.

      Are these evidence that those beliefs are true?

    • Joevanna

      If the Holy Bible was man made how come Jesus has lasted in the minds of men for thousands of years and will continue to do so? …. Lets say me and you are the first and only two people on earth, i make up a story and you believe me cause you don’t know any better, my story blows your mind and you write about it, i kill you the next day and you die leaving your journal around. Years later people of a new society find these words in your journal and because they do not also no different, they continue to believe a story i made up along time ago they just read, and someone just believed it. Domino effect will now and forever start. And how has it continued in a society like ours in todays world? Well you try telling someone they don’t believe in god, it won’t make a difference really, at the end of the day the only thoughts you need to worry about are your own, and whether or not people want to believe you or your stories it doesn’t really matter. Regardless if you believe in god, its no ones buisness but your own. So whocares if some people say gods real, some people dont think so. But who are WE to care?

  • Jedd

    gods son christ jesus died on the cross for our sins so that by believing in him we can have life—belief in christ jesus comes from the father through the hearing
    of his words them that are in the holy bible

    w’ere living in the end times—each day the world situation grows worse and worse—and will continue like this until christ returns—bible prophecy must be fulfilled. Lucifer wrote this article he is in the words. We will cast you back into the darkness which you cam from. GO NOW!

    • AbsoluteReason

      You must be referring to the rapture, unfortunately that popular believe is a false doctrine.

      • Sam

        What is a true doctrine?

    • Sam

      Does the world really get worse each day?

  • Revelations4U

    These are the end days as written in the scriptures. It’s all coming true. When the Lord comes back all the unbelievers will know who is right. The devil is here now writing articles like that one above. Satan is here now and we will destroy you Satan we shall overcome you.

    • TonyHEART

      Well if there is a truly forgiving God then may he forgive me for not believing. I can’t help the fact that he has gave me a mind made to wander but has not showed me any proof of his existence. May he forgive me for all the sins I committed although he had given the devil the power to tempt me. Forgive me Lord for questioning what had been taught to me. Forgive me Lord for even being born or growing up on the south side of Chicago where my mom never went to church and my dad was never there. I should have listened to ppl I didn’t know when they told me to turn to you and not worry about what was happening in my everyday life. Forgive me God for you not being introduced to me the same way others have gotten to know you. Everything you tell me has not yet applied to what is happening in real life, so forgive me God for being confused. Forgive me all knowing God for knowing I was doomed from the start. Every time I prayed nothing happened, so please forgive lord for not understanding. The tooth fairy had a little bit more credibility than you. At least I found a quarter for every lost tooth when I woke up as promised.

      • Sam

        Hypothetical:
        If you were in the Matrix what would be sufficient to prove it to you?
        Not just Morpheus telling you you are in the Matrix right?

    • Sam

      What is coming true?

  • Dwayne

    I strongly disagree with the concepts of religion being as "man made" and here's why. First of all, the spirits are very real and binding, they are not something to dabble or play with. There's alot of people who were involved in their chosen path that has changed their lives for the better. It's not changed by the mind or anything in the physical sense. It changed their spiritual sense too. Religion may not be science, but they were founded based on what one has experienced and grown into a very popular one which is why millions are promoting today.

    • AbsoluteReason

      Except nothing you said was proof of anything or evidence of any kind. Just an predetermined conclusion based on opinion

      • Jay

        Except nothing YOU said was proof of anything or evidence of any kind. Just AN predetermined conclusion based on opinion

        • Sam

          Except nothing YOU said was proof of anything or evidence of any kind. Just AN predetermined conclusion based on opinion

          Sorry. Looked fun. :)

    • Sam

      Personal experience does not constitute evidence. For example the gentleman in the psych ward who knows he is Jesus and has returned. Him knowing that or experiencing that doesn’t prove it correct?

      Or what of the shaman who has traveled to the Otherworld and returned with a cure for the sick? Does that prove it?

      What of the millions who do not believe in anything at all? Does that prove they are right?

  • Vieta Oliver

    At last I can read sense. My sincere heartfelt thanks to those who are awaking from the god myth, or even questioning this unloving, ultra violent and sick ghoul, refered to as "God". Come on my fellow humans, overcome FEAR ( False Evidence Appearing Real) and wake up to the true empathy and greatness of being human. Life is it's own creator.

    • Sam

      What evidence do you have to support that life is it’s own creator?

  • love computers

    @genev. then i am very surprised you are on something that is done by science itself and even know how to use it. not only that but if you hate science why are you even on a computer and using it? As i would say again what you are using is from science and logic. If you have a problem with it maybe you should not even be around any kind of technology or medicine that helps you out in your daily life making it easier for you. So if you really do have a problem with science then maybe you should hide in a cave and live there for the rest of your life because all the Technology and engineering that is around you (including your car) and all that you use is all from from science and science alone, this is the year 2013 moving to 2014 and beyond. The 21st century going to the 22nd century, this is the information age which will become more advanced in the future and the years to come. your comment is the most ignorant,illogical,and a pure example of religious Bigotry and nonsense which is the reason why the the western world in the 5th century fell into the dark ages causing death's of many. You should really get yourself some real education.

    • Sam

      I think we are all hypocrites. We all fail to live up to our own ideals and turn a blind eye to it, either consciously or otherwise. It is part of who we are from an evolutionary neuro-biological perspective, don’t you think?

      And I don’t think that the reasons stated are what lead to the 5th century collapse of the Western Roman Empire.

  • Dahlia

    I've read every single comment under this article, and being an Atheist, I almost doubled over in laughter. No, there is no proof to suggest there is a god of any kind. The fact that people blindly follow a (clearly) fictitious book written by primitive humans is deplorable. This disgusting book that you Christians are defending encourages rape, incest, murder, genocide, opression of women and slavery. Not to mention all the times you are told to kill someone who breaks the ten commandments. The stories themselves are ridiculous at best, if not a bad influence on a modern society. The bible was created solely to control a mass population, just as every other religion was, while having the benefit of making you feel better when you pray your sins away. How dare you shove your faith down our throats when most of you haven't even read the full bible yourselves. I keep to myself about my Atheism. I don't care what you believe, but it becomes an issue when you throw it into the school systems and the courts. I absolutely HATE Christianity personally, but I let people do their own thing. My own fiance is Christian and I love him more than anything else in the world. I don't challenge him on his beliefs and he doesn't challenge mine. Unfortunately, millions of people can't live peacefully with each other and the countless deaths of innocent people over the centuries are proof of that. Eventually Christianity will die out, like all religions will. Here are some truly gross passages to prove my point.

    Numbers 25:4 (Inhumane treatment by moses and god of war captives)
    And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

    Exodus 35:2 ? "2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death."

    'If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky… Take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death.' – Deut 17:2-7

    'They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.' – 2 Chron 15:12-13

    Psalms 137:8-9 – 8 O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us 9 he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

    'All who curse their father or mother must be put to death'. – Leviticus 20:9

    Leviticus 20:13 ? "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

    Hosea 13:16 – "16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open."

    'Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases…you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.'

    'If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods …do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him'. – Deut 13:7-12

    'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife – with the wife of his neighbor – both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.' – Leviticus 20:10

    Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. – 1 Corinthians 14

    Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. – 1 Tim 2

    Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life. – Leviticus 25:44

    It's just nonsense. Even without the bull**** tales of 600 year old men building an ark that's big enough to carry two of each animal on earth. Seriously, Christians? Screw off.

    • Scott

      For someone who does not like Christianity has read a lot of the bible. Search you heart, sounds like to me someone is tugging on it.

      • soulvac1 .

        …reading the bible is the main reason I DO NOT BELIEVE…btw, you know that the bible was written by ignorant men when it describes the world as being flat…go read your bible…then THINK…

        • Sam

          Do you say sun rise? Does the sun rise? Are you an ignorant person for saying that? What do you think about that?

      • ObamaSmellsBad

        Ummm…would that not be called an informed opinion?

      • Sam

        LOL. Wow.

        So if you know a lot about the devil then that means maybe something is tugging on your heart?

  • Volly

    To the Christians:

    You worship a deity that murders babies all because a man said no. Don't believe me? Read the story of Moses again. What was the 10th plague? in case you forget – the killing of the first born.

    Now – how old does this first born have to be? It means all of them. A 50 year old person who is the fist born or a 5 second old baby who was only in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    By you worshiping a deity that did this (as written in your holy book) you condone this.

    Now I ask you Christian – why do you condone the murdering of babies? Saying you should not question God – then you condone the murdering of babies.

    Go ahead – defend your deity. I dare you to.

    I will simply refer to you as someone who supports the murdering of babies.

    • Scott

      God did bring on that plague to free his people. At that time, Israel was God chosen people. Also anyone who put blood of a lamb on their door frames would be spared. It was not just the firstborn of man, but the firstborn of animals as well. This is what is now know as the Passover and also exactly what Jesus did for us. The blood of the lamb (Jesus) will save us from our sins. His sacrifice let not just the people of Israel to be saved, but all people to be saved.

      • soulvac1 .

        %$#^%#*&^(*&&(&^(*&(*^*&^#%$#@!@!!! You delusionists are sooooo frustrating! Go ahead and NOt think for yourself!

        • Sam

          I don’t think that Scott isn’t thinking for himself but rather that his opening proposition, and the entire foundation of his argument, is juxtaposed to yours. This would likely lead to different conclusions and a different framework for his logic.

      • ObamaSmellsBad

        Can you hear yourself as you type this nonsense?

      • Sam

        I like your inclusion of “[at that time]”. It clarifies your current position on the “chosen”.

    • Dave Stacey

      Might have been some babies include, but how do you know? I believe the verse says “first born”, that does not say babies.

      • Sam

        James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici did a really excellent documentary on Exodus called “The Exodus Decoded” in which they discuss how the First Born of Egypt may not actually be every first born of every Egyptian but rather may be symbolically the First Born of Egypt as the son of the King of Egypt who himself was the living embodiment of Egypt.

    • Sam

      According to what I understand the King of the Egypt ruled from a palace called the Pharaoh. Over time proclamations from the King were refereed to as proclamations of the Pharaoh and slowly but surely the two became interchangeable, much as “Today the White House stated…” is a stand in for the President.

      Also to take into consideration is that historically the monarch/autocrat/whatnot was seen to be the embodiment of the nation so the King of Egypt was Egypt, this is the origin of the Royal We (or so I understand). So perhaps the death of the first born of Egypt was actually the assassination of the Crown Prince and heir to the throne of Egypt. This could have been carried out by a slave or even during a rebellion by a enemy combatant and attributed to God, just as ones overcoming alcoholism or not dying in a car accident or beating cancer are attributed to God.

      Food for thought…

  • baka

    idiot

  • johannes

    its not just america, im from south africa and living as an atheist is hard, everyone thinks you are a sheep lost and open for reaping, i get confronted every other week, im sick and tired of it, so tired that i lie and say im christian just to keep their bloody mouths shut, less then 15 perc of south africans are atheist, i only know two other atheists and they live far away. all i want is to be left alone with no one saying that is satanic or that is ungodly or whatever. why can christians just stop forcing their religion onto others, and im sure its not just the christians.

    • soulvac1 .

      AMEN TO THAT! Don’t allow anyone to force their beliefs on you. You can also remind them: where was your magical invisible man when all those innocent babies were starving to death…THINK!

      • Sam

        I feel as though you attribute to God the same motivations that you have. Why?

        Don’t get me wrong I understand that you believe there is no God. That being said why do you have the God construct that you do? Or are you using the examples and stated motivations for God the way you are to clarify the ignorance of those you feel claim to believe in Him?

  • Jonathan

    Thank you for this thought provoking rebuttal! You are a fine example of how religion has managed to maintain its grip on humanity.

  • Mike

    At last, someone who makes sense.

    To all these Christians responding negatively, it is precisely you that these sentiments are aimed at!

    If God is so omnipresent and powerful then why don't you stop barking and let him tell the man to stop?

    What place do you have to become a spokesman for God?

    Did he specifically tell you to?

    The last question was rhetorical, because he didn't. Just because you read some text in a book that you believe to be the truth doesn't make it so, so be quiet and think about what the good doctor has said for a minute.

    The truth is that you are to frightened to do this – if you really believed in God, you would shut up and let him worry about what has been said. But deep in you heart of hearts, you know that he isn't there and won't ever come to back up your belief. So you lash out. Only by crying out in such a stylised way as you have in your reply to this post and by seeing the responses of the other lazy, frightened people like you, can you feel safe. Your belief isn't real, it is programmed into you and you are simply too cowardly to test it. Go away and shut up.

    • Sam

      Why did you respond?

  • maggie

    If a supposedly loving God exists…..
    Why did he confuse languages which only divided the people
    Why is he letting trillions of people in the world get killed by war, by disease, by starvation,
    Murdered from knives, guns, strangulations,.
    Why does he let women and girls be raped, mutilated, die in child birth, give birth to dead babies, or babies with disease, illness, defirmaties….
    Why does some of his so called book the bible…have to be interpreted….why does God talk in riddles…
    Why does God allow paedofila, abortion, people been jailed innocent,
    God does not exist, get over it!!!! If however he does exist, he don't give a ****….
    Get over that too…
    Religion is all about controlling people….in order to bring in tyranny and fascism globally….in the
    New World Order…look that up and see fit yourself.
    Religion is nothing more than a tool of the devil.
    Jehovah's witnesses, the pope, Christianity, do the research…

    • soulvac1 .

      yes… the first order of business, if MAN is to survive on this planet, is to stop the delusion, and move forward as rational, THINKING human beings. Take note: the most productive and peaceful countries in the world, are those that the majority is non-christian. Just the opposite for highly religious countries…more people have been murdered in the name of religion,than by any other cause…combined! Think about that for a minute…

      • Sam

        I don’t think that stat about “more people have been murdered in the name of religion,than by any other cause…combined” is accurate. I suppose one would have to deliminate between actual killing for religion and using religion as an excuse, just nationalism, or even atheism. How many did the Soviets, North Koreans, Chinese, etc. kill in the name of Atheism. But is that really why they were doing it? Or was that a convenient excuse? Is anyone ever really killed for one reason or is always a combination of factors that play into each other?

        Do you mean “most productive” and “peaceful” to be linked the way they are or are they independent criteria?

    • Sam

      Are people loving?

  • Anonymous

    I grew up in a religious family and a religious country, I am now reaching my 38th, i was always questioning many religious aspect we are follwoing, i find it difficult to admit it's right, many clue was there i can see them, but was not daring denying the existence of God, now i am 100% beleiving myself and my reason, I've always been a more intelligent and different person from most of people around me (family, friends, ….) today i can see clearly the big picture, and to my surprise, i became a better person, more confident than ever, everything has changed in me, it's like i was chained and broke free, i don't feel anymore that burden on my heart, i want to live my life to the fullest, before i was just waiting to die, i only feel sorry for the years of my life i lost living in suppression, guilt, depression, and i feel sorry for my loved ones also, they missed the 1 and only life they've got :(. i hate those people who introduced religions and manupulated us, i hate the stupid poepole who beleived and still beleiving them.

    • soulvac1 .

      HALELUJIAH!! (kaff-kaff!) Yes! I also broke free of those chains of delusion! This IS your only life…live this life to the fullest!

    • Sam

      Question everything. Accept others. Love all anyway.

  • KC

    I hope your comment is satirical because there is no way any intelligent person can be that self-contradictory. You use the phrases "May lighting strike them a thousand times"; "Jesus please forgive these fools"; and "They will… burn in the molten trenches of fire and lava for eternity." All while referring to the same group of people… wtf! Then again you can't seem to spell lightning correctly so you might not be THAT intelligent.

  • kate

    so you saying that god is disperate to introduce himself to us and sending people like us to introduce him from time to time and keeping silent for some period then coming back again to try to introduce himself ??? i dont think a god will do this

  • Josh

    To whomever wrote this comment I am replying to….

    You are dumb.

    "Jesus Christ" was never a real person. Mary's last name was not "Christ" and you are incredibly ignorant if you believe it was.He also did NOT go by the name "Jesus". His name, that everyone at the time he walked the earth called him, was pronounced "Yahushua". which is correctly translated today to "Joshua". The name "Jesus" came later…..much later. made up by man. (source: http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm )

    Sincerely,
    Your friendly (more educated than you are) neighborhood ATHEIST.

    • Scott

      Pick up your bible and read acts 7:44 and then re-read the article you posted. Remember the article you posted is man made. Jesus was not man made.

      • Sam

        I am afraid I don’t understand how your statement is a rebuttal to the preceding comment.

  • KT

    Oh my God, I don’t believe in God :O
    Religions are behind mankind retardation and failure, while the good and the bad are human characters, religion comes with “instruction” to do the good and abstain from doing the bad, but human nature is that when something is prohibited it is the most wanted, so over thousands of years, human were most probably wanting the bad that their religion prohibited and doing it even in discretion, which means human most likely committed sins while believing in their religion, thousand times more if there were no religion at all that existed and gave them instructions.
    When you tell a baby NO don’t eat this piece of paper, it’s not good for you, he will try harder to eat it, that’s the human nature, when religion comes and says do this and don’t do that, it’s confusing for the human being, especially when it starts as early as fetus stat, another example, some people likes to drink alcohol, they feel they need it because they are that kind of person who is always in tension, who needs external help to relax a bit, but when they have the freedom to choose whether to use it or not, they will probably abstain, or use in moderation, taking into consideration the many disadvantage of alcohol, but when their religion and family and community and country and almost everybody, says no don’t do it, it’s a sin, what do you think they will do then? The normal reaction is that they will want it more than anything in the world, and when they get the chance to have it, they will have a lot!!!!!
    What I am trying to say here, is that the people who invented religions had good intentions maybe, they wanted to create a better world by classifying the bad and good things and by encouraging people to do the good (you will go to heaven) and terrorizing them to do the bad (you will go to hell) they did not know that human had to go through the experience to know the good and the bad by themselves, which has created through the years a world full of unhappy, confused, chattered, disordered, tiered…human being.

    • Sam

      So having laws against rape and murder cause more rape and murder?

  • ELP

    Anyone who denies that this mediocre (at best) text was written by man and has absolutely zero divinity to it is just sadly delusional. It is a book which contains countless contradictions, laughable inaccuracies, horrible tales of immorality, disgusting shows of monomaniacal dictatorship, and the occasional spattering of flowery verse. If someone, if anyone reads this book without childhood indoctrination and knowledge of the support of billions (similar to those who thought the Earth rested upon pillars – oh, wait, they're the same group) while displaying the equivalent of a high school education, they would immediately discard it as a writing far inferior to other fictions such as The Odyssey and The Lord Of The Rings.

    • Sam

      You have clarified what you think wouldn’t be a divinely inspired text, so what would a divinely inspired text look like?

  • Dana

    May God forgive your soul whoever wrote this piece needs to repent for their sin. I bet they've never even rad the Holy Book. We ask that Jesus forgives these warlocks & demons amongst us.

  • Steve

    Say what you want, but there is undeniable proof that Jesus existed. Ever hear of the Constitution of the United States? He wrote that. He also invented the .30-06 cartridge to help our founding fathers kill off the dinosaurs to make the world a safer place.

    Christians = 1 Science = 0

  • Daniel Plants

    I am a Christian, and I just want to say, this article was written by man and quite frankly is absolute rubbish! :-)

  • Sean

    Seen my own brain matter? No, but I have sufficient proof it exists via other means. There is no proof for a god.

    You write:

    “I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.”

    Nice idea, kinda like Pascal's Wager. The problem is you assume that the only possible god to believe in is the Christian god. When you add in all the other possible gods people believe in, you have to choose, and since there is only one correct choice, the chances the you have chosen correctly are rather slim.

    Personally, I don't care what you believe, no matter what I think of it. I do care about what you choose to try to write into the laws of my country, and if you're choosing to write in things that are religiously biased, I will be angry, and I will fight against those items being made into law. When you support laws that have a religious bias, you're forcing me to adhere to your religion, and I refuse.

    I suspect most atheists really don't care what you believe. What they care about is how often Christians want to force their religion on them via laws and publicly funded displays and people putting creationism into the school system and other similar things.

  • j

    The overwhelming majority of atheists wouldn't feel the slightest need to say a word about religion if evangelical nutbars would stop trying to shove their brand of it down the throats of children, lawmakers, and basically, anyone who doesn't believe their particular fairy tale, especially in America. Oh, and we don't have "beliefs". (At least, not religious ones) We just decline to accept yours without extraordinary proof, which has yet to be provided. And while I agree that scientists (Not sure why you felt the need to put that in quotes. That's really really what they are.) are human, thus error-prone and tending occasionally to let their personal agenda overwhelm their reason, at least science has a built-in error-correction scheme to deal with that. That's largely what the scientific method is for. Has religion got the equivalent? Nope. Science tries to get to the truth by ripping into a new theory and attempting repeatedly to prove it wrong. Religion has apologetics. Pretty much the complete opposite. Take a two thousand-year-old assertion by some guy whose day job was following sheep around and try to massage it until it fits known observations about the world. Good luck with that.

  • j

    Aww, you're so cute I could just put you in my pocket…. It's the frothing that makes you so adorable.

  • michael

    "May lighting strike them a thousand times "……………yup, you do sound like a wonderful Christian.

  • Jamie Hall

    I agree with you brother it is articles like this one that seek to undo Jesus's work he who gave his life for us on the cross. I am sickened to read some of the comments from atheists who think that the bible was a work of fiction. May lighting strike them a thousand times as the Lord will come back soon. I know his time is near now as the time of rapture is coming soon. Jesus please forgive these fools who are doing Lucifer's work. They will get what is owed to them and burn in the molten trenches of fire and lava for eternity. tHERE is only one true God and you will either bow to his throne or die an eternal death in hell. May God forgive you for your sins. God is all forgiving you first have to open your hearts to Jesus and the Lord.

  • GuntherL

    … Poetry anyone?

  • Harold Engelson

    Beware of those who try and discredit the Holy Bible. It is Luciefers work. His domain is the earth but God's is the heavens.

    YOU ARE ALL GOING TO BURN IN HELL! WHAT IS THIS DEMONIC ENTITY THE SQUIB THAT PRINTS SUCH BLASPHEMY FROM HERETIC SCIENTIST EVIL SINNERS? YOU ARE SATANIC UNBELIEVERS. ATHEISTS WILL BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR NOT FOLLOWING OUR TRUE SCRIPTURE.

    Revelation 20:7-10

    And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

    SATAN WANTS YOU TO DOUBT HE WANT YOU TO DISMISS THE WRITINGS OF JESUS AND HE WILL DECIEVE YOU ANY WAY HE WANTS. IF WE LET THEM WIN THEN WE ALL DIE.

    James 4:7

    Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

  • John

    So you are saying that you were there when he did?

  • Anonymous

    It's tongue in cheek. Get over yourself.

  • GT

    So can you supply the same scrutiny to the bible as you apply to the Dr? Wait for the full paper.
    Anyone that actually believes the writings in the bible is crackers. How many animals in the arc? Really? Get real.

    • Sam

      Do you think that all Christians are literalists?
      If they aren’t, does that disqualify them as Christians?
      Wouldn’t that be straw manning?

  • MR.Question

    I have to sadly agree. Any argument stated as fact needs to be followed with corroborating evidence. Seeing as to how strongly an article like this is likely to be attacked for it's lack of it. The article does point out some flaws, but theist have always ignored facts, logic and reason to begin with. To gloss over certain issues should not be a problem for them. This needs to be iron clad.

  • Where is the Science?

    It would have been nice if they had included a single fact in this article, instead of making it all about someone's opinion. "Scientists" are just as predisposed toward error and having their own agenda. I'm not saying that perhaps some of these conclusions aren't valid… I'm just saying they appear, at least in this article, to be based on **nothing** factual.

    Atheists tend to be even more militant about proving their believes (and telling everyone who believes differently that they don't live in 'reality')… than evangelical Christians!

    People who have already determined the outcome of their 'study' or their 'experiments' are quick to come to the conclusion they expect in the first place. Facts (and reality) are clearly lost because of personal prejudice.

  • Kalz

    but if everyone followed those rules there would be widespread massive disvrimination for lgbt's and there would just be all around terrible treatment of others. i do agree that some of these lesson are good lessons but they need to be removed from the book. because while they are still in a religious text, there will be too much hatred and discrimination preached as well as the suppression of human nature.

  • Don

    Maybe with or without knowing it your quoting Marcus Aurilius. Emperor soldier and genius 900AD
    If only more people would take life up, with his words we would be all in a better place.
    most if not all the books in the bible were written somewhere between 60 and two hundred years after the death of jesus. How do you tell people not to kill each other, create something that would scare them into not doing it Tada create a or gods. and what is the first lesson Obedience! What organization has more than any organization in the world! there's gold in those helluluyahs amen.

    • Sam

      900AD?

  • http://www.martialartaza.co.za Eugene Halliday

    "God" cannot be omniscient as well as omnipotent in one; if he is omniscient it will not be in his 'power' (omnipotence) to have new ideas, should it be in his power to have new ideas he cannot be omniscient since this will mean there are things yet unknown to him viz. his future (new) ideas.
    Religion is beyond insanity.

    • Sam

      Interesting proposition.

      If one was all powerful wouldn’t they automatically become all knowing?

      And wouldn’t anyone who is all powerful by their very nature become an Eldritch Abomination? How could we even grasp that being the finite beings that we are?

  • http://www.martialartaza.co.za Eugene Halliday

    Some say that there are some truth in the Bible (as well as in other religious documents…
    Well, here where I live on the lower South Coast of primitive South Africa we still have septic tanks and occasionally we have to clean them out and paradoxically, we find traces of food (pit mealies seeds etc.) among the feces, very much like finding traces of truth in the bible! But, in final analysis it is simply not worth the while picking it out and eating it!

  • Truth

    Lol yes, good guidelines put in place to make you a coward! used to help ensure that people will turn the other cheek when they see something violent are harmful taking place to others! Teaching you bullshit like oh, he must have did something terribly wronge to somene thats why he is being robbed and beatin with a bat! In front of your very eyes while you what? just watch and try to justify why this is happening instead of helping… "brainwashed"

  • sam

    you don't need religion to have good morals or family values. I'm sure the cavemen looked after their families otherwise we wouldn't all be here now. If you read the bible it says some pretty atrocious stuff about stoning people and killing. The bible says you're going to hell if you do bad things that's fear mongering. Then they say you get eternal parasise in heaven if you do good things. carrot and stick,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • Ben kirk

    I agree that scientist's have proven that religion is a lie but that does not dispute the fact that some of the teachings in those books are good guidelines to any life and if everyone followed the rules there would be no conflict. but that is not the case like with any view someone somewhere will have the complete opposite of opinion's on the matter so there are bound to be disagreements. There is no point in arguing who is right and who is wrong just get on with your own **** and be the best that you can be. at the end of the day do not force what you believe onto others just believe in what you want to believe in.

  • Colin

    Alan, your comments are understandable.
    To admit what your very senses tell you i.e. there is no proof of god or Jesus other than some iron-age scrolls means admitting you have been a bit of a gullible fool up until now.
    But don't let embarrassment stop you from taking your first steps into reality. Realising you have been had is just the first and most painful step.
    Reality is really cool so stop living in a tunnel and come join us.

  • mike power

    Has anyone considered saying "I don't know". Yes. They are called agnostics. If that is your view you are NOT an atheist. By definition, an atheist is someone who believes there is NOT a deity. They don't just doubt it, the firmly believe it. I am an atheist. You cannot prove a negative. It is about belief, on both sides. I just choose to reject belief in the sort of nonsense spouted by religion and its supporters.

    • Sam

      I always like this view on the agnostic/atheist paradigm.

      1. Agnostic-Theist: believes god exists, but the existence of a god is unknowable
      2. Gnostic-Theist: believes in a god for which he claims knowledge
      3. Agnostic-Atheist: does not believe god exists, but it can’t be proved
      4. Gnostic-Atheist: believes it can be proved that god does not exist

      Stolen from the Atheist Community of Tulsa website. They have a cool infographic there saying this too.

  • Russell Hatton

    Your argument falls at the glib use of the word 'we'. The question that you need to examine is 'what is 'you''.

  • Marco999

    Why is it that everyone has to argue one side or the other? Either someone believes in deities or doesn't at all. Both sides offer excellent arguments, although I am an atheist and so think there are no gods and religion is a form of control and explanation of the unknown in the absence of science. But has anyone considered just saying, " I don't know"? We are tiny creatures with limited lifespan, enormous imaginations, prehistoric fears, and only five senses which are themselves very limited. I can't see most of the spectrum of light. I can't hear as well as a cat or smell as well as a dog. So how can I KNOW of completely undetectable, supernatural beings or what really happens after we die? The wisest man in the world will admit he doesn't and can never know, and realize he must leave it at that. To argue the existence of deities is pointless and devoid of any actual proof that can convince the world of any argument.

  • Luke

    You're a fool that is being controlled.

  • Science ALL THE WAY

    Fuck your religions creating war, division and hatred. Science is real while you religious assholes deceive people – scientific men are HELPING the people.

    Watch this video of a man with Parkinsons and tell me who is doing something for him?

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e39_1371967624

  • michael

    Millions gave their body and life over the holy land, slaughterd in cold blood. Over a book where much of its original content such as the 10 commandments came from the egyptians, because moses was from egypt. Then Paul the Apostle, the man who planted the seeds of anti-semitsm visioned the resurrection, yet nobody witnessed it, except for the people in the bible in which he was the author.
    Judas represents Judaism, it was not that the jews killed christ, but it was judaism that rejected Jesus as the messiah, this is the reason for such persecution that the jews have faced over 2000 years, all because of a vision from Paul the apostle, who was keen on starting his own denomination for his own self gain and glory, and regarded the torah as obselete. The concept of Jesus dyeing for our sins came fron the rituals of humans sacrifice to appease the Gods, which basically means the same thing and was practiced very regularly in ancient times

  • Alan Tisdale

    Jesus came to earth to save humanity. Why is some of you cannot understand this fact. Humanity owes him a debt of gratitude instead we get silly articles like this giving creedance to Atheists. When I read the Bible it uplifts my spirit and my belief is so powerful and strong I cry for the people who will not be saved. Christ gave his body so that man could live and now we need him more than ever. What do scientists know for surewere they there when Jesus turned water into wine, were they there when he fed the 5000, were they there when he cured the lepers and blind, were they there when he rose up to heaven to be with his father? No! My work is done here…..

    Romans 10:17
    Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.

  • michael zagari

    Unfortunately up until modern times, religion has been used to mass the people in times of war and conflict. It is an establishment which with the state has enforced and imposed its religious laws upon its people in a brutal manner. Where to slaughter opposing religious beliefs in the name of God was accepted and was the will of God. This is still going on today. The clergy elite profit vastly in a cloak of deceit and scandal. It is the biggest human conspiracy of all time. Offcourse we should believe there is a creator, but humans are aware of good and evil and we understand what is moral. It is our awareness of morality and intent regarding the unknown truth that should be revered. The bible is a book, written by several humans on how they perceive the truth.

  • Mindy

    “I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.”

    For cryin' out loud! Why are people SO freakin' threatened by the idea of a God?! If ya don't want to read the bible, don't. But why make such a fuss over someone that does?! If you don't want to hear their 'religious ramblings', don't listen. Simple as that. But people deserve the same respect for their choices that EVERYONE wants. Why condemn them for a BELIEF? Yes, the bible (and other religious works) were written by human beings. If ya don't believe it was divinely inspired, chalk it up to a fictional piece and move on. With all due respect to these know-it-alls who THINK they've debunked the bible as a work from God – just because THEY haven't seen God – that doesn't mean He doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure they haven't seen their own brain matter, either. Does that mean they don't have brains? Using their logic, I would have to assume that's the case.

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  • mike

    I definitely believe there is a creator undoubtedly. I dont think He is as we percieve him to be. We dont even know if he is spiritual or a physical being or beings who are more advanced than us. As we understand science more, then we can understand that there may be an advanced science and technology that would have had to introduce species into this world. Humans are learning to harness the powers of the universe in an artificial way through science. However God may also be a in credibly powerful spiritual being. The fact is the truth is being witheld from humans, and there would be many reasons for this, so it it up to us to theorise why? Like myself. I dont belive there has ever been one human being in our known history who really knew, understood or comprehend the truth, and if so he was not able to prove it with substancial evidence,. but there obviously is a truth, and many circumstances that may be involved, regarding the truth, thus this unknown truth should be revered, purely for the fact that we understand the difference between good and evil, wrong and right etc. In modern times we dont really need religion to be educated about morality and correctness as it educated to us through school now and we have the government laws and police to keep the community at peace

  • michael zagari

    Would God really allow to have His own spiritual Son to appear in human form to be stripped of his dignity and then crucified by the hands of his own creation, and watch humanity systematically persecute, torture, torment and kill 100's of millions of other human beings in Christ's name. The same would apply for other religions also. Why would God have such religions be founded and have humanity slaughter each other in Gods name, its just not logical. However we recognise right and wrong, good and evil. So if there is an evil and a satan, then religion would have to be the work of the devil.

  • Sang

    I was unfortunate enough to be born in religious family, so before I learned to walk and talk or even comprehend myself and my surroundings I was already baptised and in their eyes a part of this sharade. Tell me, if religions are so great and supposingly "our choice" how come all of them try to recruit you before you even learn how to say no? Talk about someone pushing their views at you.. Wake up, you poor fools, for your own "soul's" sake.. Peace.

  • Shubh

    How do we believe that you are telling the relative truth? Ok, if you are, then how do we believe you witnessed it?

  • Paul

    For me religion is 'Spiritual Psychology'.
    If you follow its messages you will get healing and improve your life.
    Some people discriminate against religion because of the junk that is associated with it.
    Like this article for exapmle which is hate crime.
    Whether you believe it or not you are following God. To say that religion is nonsense is to say that
    there is no power greater than us which heals the cut on your hand or grows the plant in your garden. I think it's evident that there is something greater than us which i like to call a 'Creative Force'.
    I think it's great to have religion to follow but i don't think that it should be used to manipulate or to control people. People who hate religion or "don't believe in it" have never studied it at great length and are ignorant to the truth. Or the truth so far as we know it.

  • Silver

    True, just believe that exists. God is greater than religion, his understanding and goodness is much greater than any doctrine. Do what is good, hate what is bad, forget the all the other rituals/ traditions loaded onto our backs.

  • setapart

    I believe that religion is pure nonsense, but the scriptures that MOST religions are based on is the TRUTH. It is "religion" that took the most high's words and twisted them to suit thier own desires. If people took the time to actually read and research the bible (especially in it's original language) then a totally different story emerges.

    My point is read it for your self without any religious input, you will come to a very different view than that of most religions. The most high never gave his people a "religion" nor did his only begotten son come to start a "new religion", he was sent as an example of how to live in accordance with the laws and statutes of the most high.

    if you really want to get deep here is a little info that might start you on the right path: Most christians will tell you that the messiah's name is jesus, but how can that be? The letter J is less than 500 years old, this means that the ancient israelites would never have called upon the name jesus or jehovah or any of those other erroneous names. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE ACCEPTING ANY MAN'S VERSION OF THE MOST HIGH'S TRUTH.

  • mohan

    GOD,EEWSAR,ALLAH- all these words fingers towards the source of creation,the limited possessiveness of body consciousness leads to ignorance and makes the mind to disconnect from source of creation,every moment the body is connect to its source,but the mind is in limited possessiveness of body consciousness.
    A path to reach the source of creation is religion,the existence without the source is totally foolishness,
    FINALLY TO THE SOURCE OF WHOLE CREATION IS THE INFINITE SPACE , RELIGION CALL IT AS GOD,EEWSAR,ALLAH

  • Pirate

    Your prophet was a pedophile. Your argument, therefore, is invalid in it's entirety.

  • eskimo
  • Thinker

    Higgs bison is proof that nothing = something, religion fails once again, wait fossils what ? We as a species are always evolving, I see all this as a part of that we will one day have no religion simply because rational thinking and science continue to prove it faulty. You have to understand where all this came from , an area that has always benefited off of control and fear just like it has fed off of in other areas and what is the bible preaching most about ( although I do like how it is NOW teaching good some good morals ) ? The one thing that man knows almost nothing about, what happens after death. It is human nature to survive and surviving after death is this fear and is exactly why there is evolution. Get educated please :) It will help the human species as a whole :P

  • Muhammed Flaifil

    I think the guy who wrote this post was talking about religion not existing. He said nothing about God not existing. First of all someone or something must have created this crazy world we live in, and we call him GOD or as muslims call him 'Allah'.
    Now this is a sure fact that Allah exists because Everything can be not be created from nothing. So Allah the Almighty does Exist.
    Regarding religion(the holy books) there is no way to prove that they are exist or not, but we can use our common sense. Common sense says that if God does exist, then so does Fire and Hell. Good people go to Heaven, Bad people go to Hell. Holy Books are to make sure we go to Heaven by doing good deeds on this miserable planet. The reason why people are starting to believe that Religion is false, is because of all these extremists who are giving religion a bad name.
    If you don't want to believe in Religion- which I strongly urge everyone not to do – then at least have the logic and brains to understand that GOD exists.

  • clem

    The things of the spirit are foolishness to the normal man…so, i understand your anger

  • Gods child!

    I used to wonder how we became so lost and I just figured it out by reading these posts. If you dont believe in God thats fine but dont push your views on me. You people are so void of spirituality that it saddens me. I for one believe with all my heart there is a God and through my experiences I know there is a God and I feel sorry for the people of no faith. One day the entire world will know there is a God. We know the bible is full of contradictions because it has been re written so many times but I believe in its main point! Period! If you dont want me to believe in God prove him wrong and not by some self gratifying point. The dead spiritually are truly dead and I for one am so happy there is a TRUE LIVING GOD!!!!!!!!!!! Your scientists the same ones that allow your food to be genetically modified and [preach] to you its safe are the ones you allow to tell you there is no God. Man has lied and deceived us our intire lives I choose to believe there is a reason for our trials and tribulations on this earth and nobody can waiver that with a couple of cute remarks.

  • Brandon

    I could have not said it any better.

  • Sam A

    My thorough disappointment in this fluffy, fact-devoid rhetoric-riddled article (whose conclusion I nonetheless agree with) is matched only by the idiocy of the religious commenters.

  • meusa

    "If you make a computer, then you know what to put in its manual. YOU DON'T NEED TO BECOME A COMPUTER TO KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMPUTER." genius :D what a simple and straightforward way to point out the obvious self-contradictions

  • James

    It took five years to figure out that Religions are all nonsense? It took me about 5 minutes. Too many contradictions. If you want some good advice on the absurdness of Religion, watch George Carlin on youtube about Religion. It is brilliant. The only way to believe in any Religion is to remove commonsense and logic. It is for the fool minded.

  • encephalon7

    Can you provide any evidence (Quran doesn't count) to support your claim? This is the problem with the religious mind; you compartmentalize logic. You will apply logic to how you spend your money, how you drive, etc., and yet you fall short of applying logic to religion. It's a mental illness.

  • Snoopy

    About time people realize the truth.

  • john

    That is a myth. No one has a poof of that. I've heard this before but this is all bullshit and I am Muslim bty…

  • Sue

    i am waiting for the day when damascus is completely destroyed, it will not be long now, who are these idiots who do not believe in bible prophecy?

  • anon560

    I have come to believe that reasoning religion is very hard.

    This I think is due to the fact that maybe religious 'rules' or 'guidelines' are circular arguments in nature and people are mentally programmed to follow them since childhood.

    The concept of good, bad, right and wrong is taught since childhood, by relating to religion.

    Why does one believe in God?
    Possible answers you may get:
    -Bcoz someone wrote about it a thousand years ago.
    -Bcoz the world around has so much diversity and intelligent design.
    -Bcoz you cant create anything from nothing; something has to be present.
    -You got to have faith…
    etc…

    The only good arguments, I think, are the second and third one.

    By my experience, intelligent design HAS to occur at one place or the other.
    Chaos is not an intelligent design, yet if you look at a closed system objectively, without any bias, you will find that what you call an intelligent design results from chaos. eg: stardust colluding to form planets and solar systems, etc.

    One may call the same system chaotic, another may call it intelligent. This does not mean that if you think the system is intelligent it would had to be made by someone.

    Next if something has to be present, for anything to be created, then what people call god must be within everything. My question – What is the fuss all about? This means what people call 'matter' is evidently 'god' as called by religious people. This must mean matter and god are one and the same thing.

    Personally, I think religion is a kind of tool to control people. It is somewhat ingenious how people can be controlled by foolhardy reasoning.

    I have had some experiences in life which have made me question the concept of god. When I ask about the reasons to those experiences, I get what I think are dumb answers.

    Even though I think the concept of god is foolish,I still think a few religions have some wisdom embedded in them, especially the older ones like hinduism and buddhism.

    If anyone can take the trouble, I would love to hear some better arguments.

  • Kabir

    This is five years is not enough to make this conclusion. Cont to search and gather more evidence and apply rational thinking without bias. Something will surely come out of it.

  • mark

    took 5 years? why not one minute of rational thought?

  • Narendra Gurung

    What would happen if someone proves this so called research is nonsense work. People cant live wothout religion.

  • nedclark

    Tony – asked- and answered over 2,300 years ago…

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.

    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.

    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?

    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?”
    – Epicuris

  • chris

    this would be more entertaining if it were true. it's funny, but it's just not true! people aren't waking up from religion in mass quantities; they're rolling over in bed and embracing new, equally ridiculous faiths instead.

  • Dave Smith

    Its amazing how many of the readers comments here cannot escape the Judao-Christian paradigm. If we give a minimum estimate that homo sapiens sapiens have been around at least 100k years why would god wait unti say 3,000 years ago to reveal himself. Its ludicrous. Also in these peoples minds he reveals himself to a bunch of backward illiterate nomads in the middle east when the Chinese have already been writing stuff down for around a thousand years or more. The god of the old testament is a cruel, vengeful, genocidal, pathological maniac and the god of the new testament is a misogynous, slave trading ogre that asks people to believe ridiclous "miracles" such as a virgin birth, death to life etc for people to believe in him. Then add the numerous transaltion from the original "man made" script and you end up with such an unbelievable story that you would have to have a lobotamy to believe it all.

  • tanja

    1. In the beginning of your rebuttal, you mentioned 'God is all knowing'. Then later on you said 'God came down to earth… therefore he knows your pain'. You are a paradox, man. If God is all-knowing why should He come down to know 'more' things?

    If you make a computer, then you know what to put in its manual. YOU DON'T NEED TO BECOME A COMPUTER TO KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMPUTER.

    Similarly, GOD NEED NOT BECOME HUMAN TO KNOW HUMANS, pains of humans, etc. Its illogical. If you say your 'God' needs to know something more, then it's not God.

    Jesus is not God. See Matthew 24:36 'But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.'

    If Son is also the Father (very illogical), then why can't Son also know that day and hour?

    And according to Christians' own belief, humans are born sinners. Christians say we inherit the nature of sin. This is very illogical. How can a new-born be a sinner by birth?

    The Bible says in Jeremiah 31:30 "But every one shall die for his own iniquity:" and also in Matthew 10:38 "And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me."
    That means we are accountable for our sins. But you say Jesus paid for our sins. Please read the complete Bible.

    And read Luke 24:36-43, and tell me what do you understand. Did he imply that he died and resurrected? That he is a spirit?

    Please guys, use logic. Bible has got many good advises, and also bad ones that contradict the good ones. I don't believe in the Bible completely. No logical human can believe in the full Bible, for it has contradictions, vulgarity, pornographic texts, absurdity…

  • Jtag

    I'm from the Philippines and I don't believe in religion…. As far as I know my questions emerge as how our country's history was written. Philippines is once Spain's Colony for a good long while where they actually introduced us to christianity.. The problem is the priest back then was allegedly capable of doing crap things to the natives like rape and once control the society more than politics.. so which way to buy?

    If only there is a chance we can get to a different planet and ask the natives there which deity they honor and then they answered Jesus Christ or anyother deities here on earth, Thats the only way I could believe in any…

  • Tanja

    Not all religious people think for themselves, logically. Similarly not all atheists think for themselves, logically.

    Some religious people do think logically, and those are the people more closer to their faith.

    Scientists have found from the Middle East traces of humans 400,000 years ago. So we have to agree that humans have been on earth for 400,000 years or more. For instance, consider it to be just 400,000 years.

    Then God must have spoken to the first man, else you can't expect his descendants to be righteous until a prophet is sent. So the first man on earth is the first prophet.

    1. According to the Jews, Moses is the last prophet till now. He lived 3200 years ago. So the last 3200 years is a very short time in compared to the 400,000 years.

    2. According to the Christians, Jesus is the last prophet till now. He was here 2000 years ago. So the last 2000 years is a very short time in compared to the 400,000 years.

    3. According to the Muslims, Mohammed is the last prophet ever. He was here 1400 years ago. So the last 1400 years is a very short time in compared to the 400,000 years.

    So your argument 'One good point is how come God only spoke to humans in a small time period.' is ruled out.

    Here, you did not think for yourself, but I, being religious, did.

  • Diamond

    Mr Phil, have you read the Bible completely, from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21 ?

    I say, you CANNOT believe in every word in the Bible, because it has clear contradictions – arithmetic, scientific facts (not theories, but established facts), logical (etc.) contradictions.
    It has got wrong prophecies and evil advises.

    It also has place which you can't read to your mother, sister, daughter; like incest between father and daughters, brother and sister, father-in-law and daughter-in-law; whore-doms of 2 sisters which the Bible explains clearly. Psychologists say, your behavior will be affected by what you read. So if your read such incest, don't you think your mind will be negatively affected?

    Do you expect God to produce a Word with many contradictions and mistakes and pornography?

    FEW EXAMPLES WITH REFERENCES:

    1. Scientific Contradiction – Genesis 1:9-13 says ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ (this is just summary of the verses, plz read the Bible for yourself)
    Genesis 1:14-19 says ‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ (summary)
    Today science tells us ‘Earth is part of the parent body the sun.’
    It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific.

    2. Arithmetic Contradiction – 1st Kings 7:26 "And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths."
    2nd Chronicles 4:5 "And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held three thousand baths."
    Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths? 50% exaggeration? There is a clear-cut mathematical contradiction.

    3. Another BIG Arithmetic Contradiction – 2nd Chronicles 9:25 "And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem."
    1st Kings 4:26 " And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen."
    Its not with 0s, but it is written in words 'four' and 'forty'. 1000% exaggeration? This is a clear mistake.

    4. Logical Error – 1st Chronocles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."
    2nd Samuel 24 " And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah."
    No language in the world has these 2 words – Lord and Satan – as synonyms; or even as somewhat similar.

    5. God or Satan (acc. to the Bible) Lied – Genesis 2:17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt
    surely die."
    Genesis 3:4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"
    Of course Adam and Eve died, but not as a consequence of this sin. Adam live 930 years (mentioned in Genesis 5:5)
    Acc. to the Bible, then, who was more truthful? Lord or Devil?

    A 'GOOD' ADVICE IN THE BIBLE
    Proverbs 31:6-7 "Let him drink, and forget his poverty, And remember his misery no more. Open thy mouth for the dumb, In the cause of all such as are left desolate." This is also contradicted by an opposite and real good advice in Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunken with wine, wherein is riot, but be filled with the Spirit;"

    INCEST AND PORNOGRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS:
    1. Father and Daughters – Genesis 19:33-35 says Prophet Lot drinking wine, and then sleeping with his 2 daughters, and both of them begetting a son each.

    2. FIL and DIL – Genesis 38:15-18 says Judas mating with his son's wife, and begat twins Phares and Zarah who are the ancestors of Jesus according to the Bible.

    3. Brother and Sister – 2 Samuel 13:11-14 describes Amnon raping his sister Tamar. After that he says Arise, be gone.

    4. Son with father's concubines – 2 Samuel 16:22 says Absalom (son of David) went unto his father's concubines, in the sight of all Israel.

    5. Whoredoms of 2 sisters Ahola and Aholiba – Ezekiel 23:1-49 describes in detail the whore-doms of 2 sisters. Verse no. 8 says 'and they handled the BOSOM of her virginity'. 10 says 'These uncovered her NAKEDNESS;'

    Do you think God's Words should explain in detail about such acts? Just the words: 'Thou shall not commit adultery' be enough to condemn such acts.

    Do you think Bible is relieable

  • Gold

    So there is GOD.

    It is ridiculous to believe that the GOD is unjust, because God is so supreme and that God is the most supreme. So God cannot be unjust not even in the least degree.

    So for justice to prevail, there should be punishment to the sinners. So there must be eternal life – a heaven and hell.

    For example, if we get Hitler alive, who killed our 60 million Jewish brothers, the punishment we can give is to kill him. But we cannot give justice to the rest 5999999 Jews. But God, and only GOD can punish him 6 million times.

    So there must be an eternal life.

  • Gold

    THEORY of Evolution is only a theory, not a fact. Theories are based on assumptions and often take U-turns.

    Darwin's Theory is taught at schools as though it's a fact. Darwin himself admitted that he has no proof for the theory, but he uses it as it helps him to classify organisms.

    Microbiologists say it is IMPOSSIBLE THAT HUMAN DNA EVOLVED FROM DNA OF APES.

    Scientists say Mars has got all conditions to support life, but there has been no record of life on Mars. Why can't life exist in Mars? Because it can exist only by the Will of God.

    So, you atheist, GOD SPOT in brain is a solid evidence that God exists.

    I don't believe in many gods, god with wife or parents, or god begetting children, but i believe in one God.

    As to the question 'Who created God?', let me tell you, it is like asking 'What is the sex of the child who was came out of Mr JACK's womb?' BY DEFINITION, MAN CAN'T GIVE BIRTH. So such question of the sex of the child who was given birth by man does not arise. Similarly, BY DEFINITION, GOD IS UNCREATED.

  • Gold

    All prophets done many miracles, not just Jesus.

    1. Not having a human father does not imply that he is the son of God, to be worshiped. If so, then Adam is a greater son of God because he had no father and no mother.

    2. Jesus said in Matthew 11:11 "Among them that are born of women there hath not arisen a greater than John the Baptist". When you say Jesus is greatest you are saying something against what he said.

    3. Matthew 14:2 says "This is John the baptist; he is risen from the dead; and therefore do these powers work in him." So even if you prove that Jesus is unique as he resurrected, he is not unique.

    4. Luke 11:20 says "But if I by the finger of God cast out demons". Yes, he did miracles, healed the sick, all with God's permissions. He did NOT say 'I cast out demons'.

    5. In Psalms 146:3 says "Put not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help." Now I'm asking you Christians, what is he implying from this? That he is god?

    6. And any Christian please explain the incest the 'Word of God' associate to prophets. What is the moral of such things in Bible? Examples of such incest from Bible:

    i) Father and Daughters – Genesis 19:33-35 says Prophet Lot drinking wine, and then sleeping with his 2 daughters, and both of them begetting a son each.

    ii) FIL and DIL – Genesis 38:15-18 says Judas mating with his son's wife, and begat twins Phares and Zarah who are the ancestors of Jesus according to the Bible.

  • Gold

    Human being is the most complex machine, and the creation of MIND is the greatest of all creations, according to me.

    For such a complex machine the MANUFACTURER must produce and INSTRUCTION MANUAL (Revelations), and EXPERTS (Prophets).

    So comes the first expert Adam (PBUH), who taught his children of one Truth, one GOD, without a second.

    When people deviate from the teachings of experts, or when the society is in need of experts, another expert (Prophet) is sent.

    When a Revelations ceases to exist without interpolations, another Revelations is sent.

    The Torah got interpolated and now has many scientific absurdities like saying Earth was created before Sun (On Genesis Chapter 1)

    The Bible has all the errors in Old Testament and many contradictions in the NT between John 18:9 and John 17:12, where in the former it says 'lost none' while in the latter it says 'none of them is lost except the son of perdition'.

    Added to this, there are many versions of Bible, like Catholic Bible with 73 books and Protestant Bible with only 66 books.

    And now Qur'an exists as is given to us through the expert Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), with many scientific miracles like all living beings made of water, Big Bang, etc. One great miracle is that it has undergone NO INTERPOLATIONS because the Arabic text is still kept as is.

  • Tony

    I believe in God. As a Christian I have the same thoughts as you at times, why there are famines, wars, floods, thousands of deaths daily and so on. It isn't God that is doing all this, it is man. The greed for money, wealth and power. Take one part of it, the forrests throughout the Globe have more or less gone, it causes problems with landslides, which we have wittnessed in the last twenty years. One of the largest money makers in the World, is the arms industry, they wont be voting for World peace will they? I have only touched on this, not even scratched the surface. Satan also plays a big part in this.

  • Well, now. Will pray for you all D:

    I pity you all….

    Telling me that religious people can't think?

    Oh for pity's sake! I'm a becoming scientist, I CAN THINK.

    AND I DO BELIEVE. Its a marriage of how god works and thinking in science..

    At this point, god is a little GENIUS. ._.

    HAVE YOU SEEN CALCULUS!??! DDDD:

    Tsk….. The unwillingness to possibly acknowledge something outside of yourself…(shakes head) And always knowing that SOMETHING must always come from SOMETHING.

    BBuutt, I guess this is why in church they always say "The mystery of faith"

  • Fred Strand

    Religion always talks about how wonderful it is yet followers can't cope with anyone disbelieving..WHY! In their minds they think they are safe come judgement day, that's if they don't die before. Believers are no different to non-believers, they get all the same illnesses, they lie and cheat just as any other cross section of mankind, they cheat on their wives and abuse children, probably more often than any non-believers, they believe that if they admit they sinned they'll be saved, wouldn't it be better if followers of religion actually practised what they preach and leave non-believers to lead good and happy lives actually caring for each other as human beings and not existing in, and living, what they believe to be a lie.
    Leave us alone, just try and sort out the violence and hate religions and factions within your religions have for each other, because non-believers are quite happy to be judged by God should he turn up one day, but one thing we don't need is some half wit threatening us with all sorts of evil. One more fact…if Jesus or Mohammed did return to Earth they would be killed by believers, they wouldn't and couldn't accept it, just as before they would be ordinary men with nothing but words, they would be disbelieved and killed. Only people who don't believe in God would welcome them with open arms, maybe we are the true believers because we demand nothing from any God, we simply care about Mankind regardless of sex, race, colour, ability, disability, and surely no God could want more from anyone. No religion welcomes all without some kind of rule and regulation.
    If you believe in God then put your self in his place, what would you want of mankind? People bowing down and creeping "Oh look at me God I'm such a true believer, can I have a new car" or people who get on with life asking nothing of you, only that you true and fair. That's not much to ask for is it?
    As for heaven well this is it, this beautiful world to enjoy for as long as time and chance allows, enjoy life, don't complicate it with a pointless passtime like religion. God wouldn't want you too! I usually say if asked that I'm quite happy to believe in something beyond this world, God if that's how you see it, but religion leaves me cold, it's too political and has mans dirty fingerprints all over it. FS

  • Stephen

    I think this article poses a great challenge to all religions, and is also one that has been addressed many times so it is not new that certain people believe religion is man-made. I'd like to offer my rebuttal. I agree, religion can be controlling. However, think about it in truth. By definition, God is all knowing and therefore can make better decisions than we can. He is also all loving so he wants what is best for us. So what is seen as controlling (the commands of God) is in fact the best path we could possibly take (are not a burden) – 1 John 5:3. Therefore, it is completely rational to listen to everything God says. The reason we follow what God says is because he created life, therefore he knows the best way to live it. Those who know and understand God, understand that he did not come to create a religion, but to save the people he created from the devil, who does in fact exist as temptation away from all things righteous. The thing people should try to understand is that by trying to disprove God saying he is to blame for all of the bad things in the world, is only convincing people to hate the one thing that will save us from it. Will the bad go away? No, sin is here to stay, but those who believe will not die, they will live in heaven after their life on earth is complete. God did not create the bad, people did through sin. God did not design us to do bad things, free will gives us the opportunity to and the devil leads us to do them. We were created for good out of pure love. When a husband and wife get married, they have a child because they want someone to share their love with. That is what God did with the earth as our heavenly father. As for where is Jesus now and why don't we get saved now? Is it fair to save the believers now when not everyone has had the chance to know who Jesus is and believe in him? No. Wouldn't it be nice if we were saved now? Yes. However, God wants ALL of his creations to be saved and once everyone has had the chance to believe in God and the Savior, then we're good to go (Bible: Revelations). Yes, I am a Christian. Christianity is the only "religion" where God actually came to earth to be tempted by all things that the earth offers, therefore he knows your pain, trials, and fears. This is also why HE is the only one that can help us through lives as a human until we are brought to heaven, which is also real and beyond anything we can imagine.

    The reason the bible was written in a limited period of time is because the bible is an account of Jesus' life and interactions, it is not an account of history or science.

    Also, in this paper there will have to be an explanation for an explosion of churches within a VERY short period of time. The fact that this happened points directly to Jesus.

    Thank you for the challenge, this allows all believers to understand even deeper who God is and why we need Him more than anything. This paper will effectively further the kingdom of God.

    Blessings

  • Phil

    In the Old Testament God spoke through the prophets. The last book of the Old Testament talks about how God was going to be silent until He sends the Messiah into the world. 400 years (or so) pass and then there is the birth of Jesus and the start of the New Testament. So from my perspective God has spoken all throughout time, He used the Prophets in the Old Testament to speak for Him, and then He came as Jesus to speak us in the New Testament. I believe God is always working and speaking. This probably sounds stupid to those who don't believe in God or religion and I can respect that. It's all about faith in the unseen (as Paul says). God doesn't need to audibly speak to us because He has given us His word which is eternal. It's all about having faith. This makes me a happier person even though most of you think its dumb. I respect that people don't believe in God, it's very understandable. Jesus teaches to love everyone so thats what I do.

  • Sharon McDonald

    I agree, humans have been tricked by churches and religion into believing there is a God when there is no God at all just lies. Alot of people have been tricked into believing by religions that there is a Heaven, hell, when no place exists in the world. It is just rubbish. You do not have to worry about going to Hell when you die or believing that there is a Devil when there is not one.Stop scaring people with something religions like to call the Devil when no Devil actually exists. There is no Heaven. You are not going to Heaven when you die. The only place you are going when you die is your coffin. The End of your Life forever and ever. People are just going round and circles putting women thru the agony of childbirth when the world should be encouraging men in small countries to get vasectomies to try and decrease the worlds population until no one is left of planet Earth to ever suffer ever again. No one will have to die, work, worry about money, be sick, extremely ill ever again.
    Or be in pain, break a leg or arm, pass kidney stones, commit suicide ever again. No farmer has right to artificially inseminate cows or other female animals against a female animals will. Stop exploiting female animals for money. Please drink water instead of milk. milk is for baby animals not adults. Eating apples does not cause pain in childbirth. Women do not have to have children, men can get vasectomies.
    Remember the world is overpopulated in today world. 7 billion people. By 2050 there could be 9 billion people. It is dangerous to have too many people because of starvation, people dying of thirst, overcrowding, lack of housing for more people, diseases, no privacy.

  • Tan Yew Guan

    @genev

    If what you said is true, where is Jesus now?

    we have so many diseases and sick people all over the world, we need him now, so where is he????

    spouting tons of nonsense about miracles sicken many!

    All credits should be given to the Dr. who are doing their best to cure and heal the patients, just stop mentioning "What Jesus can do" while he is no where to be seen when needed most!

  • Iraqi girl

    Torah,Bible Koran
    three books at different times, in different languages each one orders the same thing, one God and men prophets,
    Moses did not speak the language of Abraham, Mohamed did not speak the language of Jesus, but the books remarkably and in different times and places agree to each other
    why would God send down humans to earth? well that is a question, first if you are an atheist then I will ask you another question before I answer you this one, if you entered a library and saw great complicated books, so hard written on all languages, you read them but cant understand them, would you say these books wrote themselves? or say reacted with the ink and with the pens and the books came out to being? if you dont say that, then how could you say that the fish became a human, or the atom that exploded in the big bang created it self? the compelling structure of the atom, so amazingly created and homogeneously electrons orbiting the nucleus created it self by it self? or us, we have a mystery science can not explain, the soul, the brain, we think we feel we have conciseness, reacting elements can not create spirit, the example of books and library I took it from the genius einstien
    or if you are one of those who say we believe in a creator, but not any a religion, then you have questions can not be answered only by religions
    why did God create us on this earth?
    why doesn't God show himself ?
    why does God let us suffer on this earth, or why does he not punish those who make us suffer
    and save us from them ?
    first question religion answer you,
    God created us on this earth to test us, examine us, unlike angles, we make mistakes, we have the ability of making good deeds and bad deeds, we can either steel, or we can work, we can oppress or be just, we have an amazing universe we live in, everything is so organised and governed by certain rules and laws, obeyed everywhere in the universe, not just on earth, those to choose to oppress, kill, slaughter, steel,disobey the peaceful nature of creation
    second questions why does not God show himself?
    has he not? every where we look we see the beauty, the cordiality, organised system, you must be asking why does he not send angles? well imagine if an angle knocked your door in a shape you have never seen in your life then you would run and scream, and convince yourself you need a doctor, and that was not true, you would not listen to him no matter what, but if a man knocked your door saying you have been created by God and here is his message to you, you would read the message and see if it is from God, if it orders you to worship statues and myths, no one can accept these, but one God, no sons no partners, no one but one, you just feel like you want to believe in it, could be that God sent this man to you, and now making you believe in it
    third question why God let us suffer?
    first religion say God did not create us to suffer, but to live peacefully with each other, who oppress, harm and make you suffer will be punished, how relieving it is to hear that, we have enough food to feed the whole planet, people are starved because of the oppressive money system that makes hundreds extremely rich, and billions extremely poor,
    you just have to search for the right religion
    besides all religions order to follow science and education I know my religion does, my prophet said(spend one hour thinking is better than to spend hundred year worshiping)
    nothing in my religion more important than science except justice and truth
    just, honest state seeks for education and science, the problem is with those who sneak inside religion to deceive people to follow them for political and imperialistic reasons for power control of fortunes, these people religions says will be punished

  • Patrick

    Either this is heavily satirical or you're a moron.

  • religidiots

    We need people to stay stupid

  • John L.

    I have always felt the same thing about religion especially Chritsian. I was brought up Catholic but now have denounced it especially from all the abuses of children and cover ups. I see the bible mainly as an allegory and its just writing nothing else. man wrote that and God did not. Any people who believe that God wrote the Bible are mentally sick. Religion is a mental illness and hese people need to be cured.

  • LOL

    You're retarted.

  • osiris

    very subjective attack on religion. pure subjective propaganda in itself.

  • Believe in Science, Not Superstition! (Chinese Propaganda against Falun Gong)

    There is no thing as eternal life. The first life formed 4.5 billion years ago. Although this is preposterous, but the person who invented carbon dating said that the earth is only around 300000 years ago. And when people are touched by the "holy spirit", their brains come into a psychological trance and high where "God" is "present" in their minds. It is all psychology and evolution and geography! So those believers were long deceived.

  • Mickey

    Science is evil? then stop using the Internet and computers you fool as they come from science!
    The stupidity of religious people is epic!

  • deepak

    are you drunk?

  • Rumaiz

    Knowledge is a Sea of Water..how this so called supernatural scientist quench their thirst and come to a conclusion.. compare to the whole universe with there tiny brain's….let me a simple example any product in this world there is human inventor.. so who is your creator…?

  • Jeffy D.

    I would agree except many parents refuse to let their children think for themselves. My parents DRAGGED me out of bed every Sunday morning to force Christianity on me. Many religions look at their children marrying outside their family's religion as taboo and will disown their own children for it. Religion is based on fiction. I live my life based on fact, not the best sold fictional book in the world.

  • Jeffy D.

    Religion–Reason for lots of unnecessary death, reason for lack of world peace. Religion–The reason for many annoying knocks on my door. The Bible–The Greatest Fictional Story Ever Told. Thank you for nothing religion.

  • Paul G

    Religious people cannot think for themselves they rely on these man made rules and rituals to make it through life. One good point is how come God only spoke to humans in a small time period. Man has been around much longer and what about recently, nothing. I just find it hard to believe that Moses was the chosen one, that whole story is made up non sense. If you were raised on a desert island you would not know about organized religion and you would not know any better.

  • genev

    Jesus walked on water and turned water into wine. Jesus was born of a virgin mother because he was the Son of God. Wherever Jesus went he would heal the sick and crippled purely by touching them. If they had terrible diseases they would just disappear. Jesus raised a widow's dead son in the town of Nain and cured lepers. Jesus was also good with fish the nets would strain with fish when he so wished and he could calm storms just by waving his hand. Abracadabra. He raised Jairus' daughter from the dead and she came to life. This is proof that Jesus was the Son of God and a Savior to al Mankind. He fed 5000 men and and women with 5 loaves and 2 fish by making them multiply. He raised Lazarus from the dead he said come out Lazarus after 4 days in the tomb. Lazarus came out and Jesus said let him go. Jesus was on the mount of olives and Judas kissed him betraying the Son of Man, one of his disciples lopped off Judases ear. Jesus said enough of this and touched his ear restoring it fully even though it had been severed completely. These are some of the miracles of Jesus. No doctor or science can do anything that he did. The Holy Christian Bible is the true word of God. Jesus is God's messenger on earth and he will come back soon to bring humanity back from the devil. Science is satans realm. Science does not have the Holy Spirit, science is evil. Jesus and his disiples are the cure for man's illnesses.

  • errol

    I think this article disproves religion in one fell swoop. I don't know of any text or book that has done this ever and to see it done in one measly piece is amazing. Whoever wrote this or the scientists is a genius because this is check mate. I used to be a practicing Christian but now I really don't know. It really is stupid to believe in all of it, including islam hindu and judaism theyre just products of the human mind.

    Whoever is behind this has done a very very brave thing. I want to sit down these religous people and say sorry you must accept that it is not true and we have all been misled. I was misled, my parents and elders misled me, my church misled me.

    If there was a pill you people could take to cure you of your disease the world would be a much better place.

  • follow me blindly

    Tell me…what language did God speak to Moses in? And why is God not speaking to anyone in the internet and television era? Come on speak up!!!!!!!!

  • Jamie

    God did not write the bible, he dictated it to Moses, who wrote it down in the language that the Israelites spoke, Hebrew, so that they could understand it. Saying that the bible only being written in one language somehow disproves God is a very weak and poorly thought out argument.

  • Mustafa

    Lets see. You are born under very harsh circumstances, with little access to food and all the essential vitamins. As a result you grow up with psychological problems etc. etc. and you commit sins unforgivable in religions like Islam. Do you think you burn in hell for ever as Islam says?

    I think all religions are man-made and believable anymore.

  • Georgios Kintsakis

    What's scientific with this text? I can only see a fanatic belching the majority of the world population. All religions are living religions and millions of people can attest their transcendental experiences within an organized religious context. All of these testimonies are overlooked those a priori believing that there is no God. And all of this -certainly not scientifical- nonsense study persuades nobody, not even those atheists able to think rationally.

  • Nader

    To add evidence from our days… yuri gagarin first guy to land on the moon had heard the Islam prayer from there….. Can science explain this??he didn't say he heard anceint phrases and weird sounds, he said only the prayer call….

  • Nader

    5 years of what exactly? God nor the prophet put those words on the paper (talking about the sacred books Quran, bible, tawra) if you actually researched the material for 1 week you'd of figured out that in our religions words were passed to our prophets from god him self along with miracles that all nations witnessed, there were more than 20prophets that were sent everywhere challenging each culture with what they are well known for, Jesus with medicine (able to heal and bring the dead), Mohammad with poetry (no one could've make anything close to the way the Quran rhymes and people's hearts felt the words), Moses with magic ( 5 ancient magicians went on their knees admitting that he is a prophet even tho they keow they'd die for doing that)……. And much more…. We have our religions and we are blessed to be one of "Ahel al ketab" (people of the books) u guys better do something else before your lives run out, as for us we know what will happen in the future from our books from now………. Thank god for being born with a religion. You can't trust hemen with a nuclear missile….. Imagine the universe and it's balance…

  • Fatima

    We might be around my friend; in science; energy is renewable; so the energy that makes u and I alive will continue elsewhere and this is why we learn science and try our best in a sick world to progress because our energy; not our bodies will be there … I dont care to tell them "I told you so" latter; by being who I am I shall give birth to more energy and make mine science-oriented

  • robertfischat

    pls it's only a film(the god's must be crazy).

  • Ramzi

    The only word of god that is real was translated to the great prophet PBUH.

  • Maryam

    Jesus died for our sins so you should all be ashamed of yourselves for doubting him. When he comes back, you will all be left behind. Shame on you!!!

  • Yunusa Aminu

    Thank God if the religious books are Man made why did they wasted their time research them. They should have proof their scientific ideas as Natural.

  • Joan

    If religion was written by God how come he only speaks in old human dialects? If he was God should he not speak in all languages, all dialects. How come God does not speak now in the technological age? In theory God should know about technology and science too.

  • Jeton

    Don't you see that they want to be famous with that what they are doing , so if they are real scientists dhe believe in truth and not in famous , so they have no idea for themselves how the been created so how can they know about books of ALLAH…

  • x

    Oh, tell me how it wrote about you air-condition that cools your lazy ass that does not want to read any other book except quran.

  • The answer is in science

    Science has advanced to the point where we can infer something about the entire universe. This has been a great challenge considering how unimaginably vast the universe is. The countless stars you see in the darkest sky constitute merely 3000 neighbors out of about 300,000,000,000 stars in our galaxy, and as many as 100,000,000,000 galaxies exist in the universe. Humans have always wondered: Has the universe always existed like we see it now, or did it somehow start all of a sudden? In the beginning of this past century, we found out in amazement that the entire universe is expanding. This led physicists to deduce that the universe started out in the finite past with a minuscule size. Realizing that the universe had a beginning, and awed by its vastness and its creations, people have asked: How did the universe begin? After all, we are here to be amazed by it because the universe eventually created lives like us. Now, after decades of observing and thinking, we have come to answer confidently the question of the origin of our universe… with what is known as the "big bang".

    In 1929, Edwin Hubble discovered that farther galaxies are going away from us at higher speeds, proportional to their distance. In other words, the spectra of more distant galaxies had higher redshifts. From distant galaxies, light takes millions or even billions of years to reach us. This means we are seeing an image from millions or billions of years ago. In redshift, the spectrum is shifted from shorter wavelength to longer wavelength as the light travels from the galaxy to us. This increase in wavelength is due to expansion of the very fabric of space itself over the years that the light was traveling. If the wavelength had doubled, space must have expanded by a factor of two. Thus, Hubble's discovery was that this expansion factor was roughly proportional to the distance light traveled, or equivalently, to how far back in time you looked. This means that the universe was smaller and smaller earlier and earlier. The universe has been expanding.

    The big bang, however, is merely a global description of the origin of the universe. Today, particle physicists have consistent theories about the history of the universe down to only a trillionth of a second after its birth or even earlier. They can test their theories experimentally with particle accelerators that can simulate events involving enormous energies similar to the condition at the beginning. To learn more about how exactly the universe began, physicists must develop a theory that works at even earlier times after the big bang. Such theory must combine both the general relativity (because of the extreme gravitational field at the beginning) and quantum mechanics (because of the extreme compactness of the universe at the beginning). The goal of physics today is to develop this quantum theory of gravity so that we may one day understand what exactly happened around the moment of the big bang to get the universe started.

    more here http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

    Please also do your own research.. :-)))

  • October

    Atheists:

    The world came from nothing for no reason because it did.

    Sounds a lot like the religions they're trying to disprove.

    Are we really this conceited that we believe we can know the unknowable?

  • Frederick Semlac

    These scientists are the face of the devil. Lucifer makes them write these terrible things against the word of God. You will burn in the fires of hell for your blasphemy and apostate demonic words. We must pray for your souls which have been possessed by evil. May you find salvation although the eternal fire where you will burn for these calamitous words you have written here are surefire proof that the devil is here on earth working against the purity of our Lord.

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

  • Nelia

    Attacking believers and calling them names, publishing anti-religion articles is same as one religion attacking the other as false and creating rage and disharmony. It is almost like atheism/agnosticism becoming a new "RELIGION" in itself behaving this way, the religion of "non belief" or of "only blieving in what science is capable of proving at this time" (while seeing is no believing in the first place), where criticizing the bad effects of religions becomes hypocritical. Because the new religion of non belief is demonstrating the very same undesirable effects of attack and judgment that they criticize in religions.
    It is all nonsense. The only truth lies in letting all judgments go and not telling another how to be. And if you desire to make ANY positive changes in the people and world around you, lead by example. And "Be the change you want to see" in this world.

  • Abidul Huda Chowdhury

    if you scientist want to learn about God/Allah then research on The Holly Quran, there you will find past,present and future, scientis invent those things now were told in Quran 1400years ago. so learn foolish scientis first learn

  • peter

    its up two a individual if they believe or dont and it makes no difference if its made up or not its all good stuff and the words are comforting and its good to have a belief it get you out of bed each day

  • Dave Stacey

    Delay accepted. Apologies offered for slow post reaction. Moderated sites are often targeted for holding back post they do not wish to post. You have proven not to be situated in that category.
    Thanks,

    Dave

  • D

    and may the flying spaghetti monster pray for your soul too

  • Dave Stacey

    This sites must be moderated by an Atheist. My post made more than an hour ago was not posted. There must be fear in the mind of this Atheist moderator, else he would put my post through.

    Dave

  • Dave Stacey

    Supernatural Sun and Spot Granulation Processes,
    David D. Stacey, Private Researcher,
    Glen Allen, VA.

    On July 5, 1885, a spectroheliographic image was taken of the photosphere that demonstrated the best image taken as of that early date. That image was published in 'The Sun,' Kuiper editor, 1953. The image is clear enough where one may easily see the photospheric convection granulation transformation into adult extraterrestrial entities on the photosphere at a temperature near 6,000K (abiogenetic). The estimated time of transformation into entity was submitted by K O Kiepenheuer, 'The Sun,' Kuiper editor, 1953; at 3 minutes for granule transformation. The entities were identified as faculae until K O Kiepenheuer, published in his lecture and included the 1923 Greenwich Observers conclusions identifying photospheric faculae as entities. 'The Sun,' G P Kuiper, editor, 1953, page 369, para. 14.

    Published by K O Kiepenheuer, 'The Sun,' Kuiper editor, 1953 and written by the Greenwich Observers, 'The Sun,' Kuiper, editor, 1953. identified faculae entities are always present surrounding spot formations. The spot entities are in place to effect removal of horses from the spot. The Spot process is akin to the supernatural granulation transformation of faculae, but comes from the darker sun spot pool with an average temperatures near 4,000K, assisted for removal by the entities surrounding the Spot there. As horses, 'The Sun,' Kuiper, editor, 1953, called 'leaders' are retrieved from the spot with the assistance of the faculae entities, they are quickly matched with an entity rider. In some cases when entity is matched by horse, a surge prominence or self ability to fly moves them into the lower Corona. Both faculae entities and horses move into the lower Corona by self flight capability, or by surge prominences; magnetic waves to which they may connect and ride into the Corona. Loop flares are generated from the area of the spots. General prominence waves are generated from the area where entities reside. The creation processes are supernatural and have not been written to equation.

    From the Corona, the entities with or without horse accompaniment move through the Galaxy and Solar System. The entities are provided, internally, with magnetic electrical resonance abilities that may produce high or low temperatures. Theory indicates the excessive heat found in the Corona may be generated by the numerous entities found there, having arrived by riding a magnetic wave prominence or self flight into the lower Corona. The entities demonstrate supernatural abilities.

    The entities have shown an ability to provide a self induced internal light that will project a beam. Then, too, they have shown an ability with groups to form a biological craft for flight. Each individual entity exerts the ability of flight without craft of any type. In groups the entities join arms or hands, after which they probably exert a magnetic electrical resonance which joins the entities into a biological craft for flight, a supernatural ability demonstrated.

    Found within the atmosphere of Earth, the entity's survive well and may not have a need for solid food sources. The entities and horses can and have traveled to the Earth's surface and returned to their atmosphere home around Earth, demonstrating a power over Earth's gravity (photograph).

    Showing signs of biological internal magnetic/electric resonance allows them to defy Earth's gravitational pull. The propagation/creation of Celestial horses and Celestial Entities creation is a clue from where some of the Corona heat is generated. The entities show a supernatural control of the heat factor on the photosphere.

    References:
    The sun, 1953, G P Kuiper, editor Photographs
    1923 Greenwich observers Publication, E W Maunder, Photosphere Activity
    NASA and JPL images published in on-line journals
    L H Strous, et all, Phenomena in an emerging active region, para 2,2,4, 28 Feb., 1995
    R Muller (Springer 1985) High Resolution in Solar Physics
    K O Kiepenheuer, Sun Activity, Published, 1953, within The Sun, editor, G P Kuiper
    Published photographs, Image 1898, photosphere, Annie Maunder published.
    Sun spot image, JPL/NASA images

  • SkepticNY

    The bible is true because it says so in the bible. Brilliant!!

  • bosco

    typical scare tactics to get people to believe in a thing that doesn't exist.

  • John

    Regarding the last line of the above article which reads; "This could be dangerous for society, so we must either let them carry on believing their fiction or try to somehow support them when they realise the truth," Dr Sanreso said." People who have been programmed from birth with the idiosyncrasies of "beliefs" are extremely difficult to de-program because their narrow-band thinking is closed to any question. Unbelievably, the words of ancient men cannot be questioned either and if a doubt crept-in, it would be swiftly swept under God's carpet as part of things that a mere mortal could not possibly understand. In conclusion, the likelihood that believers will "realize the truth" is really quite unlikely because followers don't apply critical thinking but instead stubbornly rationalize their beliefs in the desperate hope of eternal life that ancient men said would be forth coming for those who believe in an invisible man (whose name varies depending on one’s brand of religion). So for believers, "realising the truth" is simply eclipsed by their unshakable belief in nonsense that contains no more substance than the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny or the Santa Clause theory. To interfere with delusion is to risk violent reactions so the safest course is to keep well away from anyone infected with religion. For them, physics, science, carbon dating, biology, geology, astrophysics and astronomy (all of which are fact-based and rigorously tested) cannot be considered because… they interfere with "belief". As the old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water – but you can't make them drink it".

  • God

    What the fuck are you talking about? I can't even take you seriously…If I were real, you wouldn't have been created mainly because of how narrow and close-minded you are. Most religious people are cowards and use god to explain the unexplainable, give it another century or two. Science will explain more in the future, besides..Religion is crumbling beneath you, there are more atheists/agnostics every year and less religious people. Kinda funny how you think you know how everything works because you were spoon-fed the bullshit when you were 3 years old and thus you think its the absolute like Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. I'm sorry to break it to you, but people are waking up from the stupidity…I feel bad for you, so close-minded. As the Great Soloman the Wise once said "Start with God – the first step in learning is bowing down to God; only fools thumb their noses at such wisdom and learning.". I shouldn't even be wasting my time on how idiotic and shallow you are. The bible hasn't been around forever, neither has Catholicism, Christianity, Judaism, or the word of God. I don't understand how you can't realize that science has already explained why so many animales are related to eachother…Same world…Same conditions (albeit though climate and vegetation do apply to the area)…Same atmosphere…came from the same single-celled organisms…I could go on and on but you religious zombies dont deserve that.

  • Phil

    The 3 Abrahamic religions are a blight on humankind and will most likely lead to the end of the world as we know it. My only regret is I won't be around to say "see, I told you so". Also, notice the hateful comments and name calling directed at Atheists by "religious" people. Proof at how ineffective religion is in creating a better individual.

  • jedi0312

    Truth or Lies or $$$ ?
    The 21st May, 2011 – The Rapture fails to materialize.
    The Bible gives mixed messages about whether the Earth will be destroyed;
    2 Peter 3:10 states that "The earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up,"
    while Ecclesiastes1:4 states that "The earth shall abideth forever."
    And another part of the confusion stems from contradictory Bible passages about when Jesus will return… Matthew 24:36 states explicitly that "Of that day and hour knoweth no one,
    not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only," while
    Matthew 16:28 clearly suggests that Jesus would return during this disciple's lifetime:
    "There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,
    till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."
    Meantime, google…..Apocalypse Not Now….. and RT: Apocalypse Not Now…..10 Failed Doomsday Predictions…..cult suicides…bishopAccountability.org…..judge refuses to drop charges against U.S. catholic bishop…..catholic church says child abuse cases rose in 2011….
    …..Apocalypse Not Now: 2012 Doomsday Predictions Debunked by NASA
    And here is a comment by Bishop Desmond Tutu – "When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said, 'Let us pray'. We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."
    Such doomsday lies are normally spread by a religion.
    Read some articles that in the US, some religious organisations rake in millions of $$$ last year.
    In ancient times, many people believed that the earth was flat.

  • informed-pragmatic

    google…..shroud of turin (not to offend and say that it is a fake, it is now regarded as a controversy).

    did you read those comments posted here yet ?

  • Ben

    Please throw away your thesaurus

  • Rick S

    Your shallow argument reflects your low IQ.

  • Alex

    The true "Jesus" who's real name is Jmmanuel. Meaning of life = Consciousness related evolution. Learning from mistakes, gaining knowledge, truth, wisdom. Creating peace, love, harmony, balance on the planet.

    http://www.theyfly.com
    http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk

    The Book of Mathew is based off of a book called Talmud Jmmanuel. Want proof? 2O years research on Talmud Jmmanuel comparing it to Matthew. http://www.tj.research.com

  • MARCEL

    It is a sign of human weakness when religions and their false teachings are presented as instruments of what is creative, and when wisdom becomes unreal through this. Religions and politics of the Earth work together in these things and shrink from no intrigue-filled means at all in order to achieve their power-hungry goals.Thereby, false terrestrial religions are to name as the worst factors by which all reality and truth is denied and condemned. In this respect, the Earth must be described as a unique in all areas of the universe known to us, and on all worlds known to us, as a carrier of such degenerated unreal ideologies. Such insane ideologies and religions do not exist anywhere else as they rage here on this Earth. The terrestrial ideologies, and actual sects and religions in particular, as well as the terrestrial power-political machinations, have become a danger which spreads out slowly and fatally. Were it not enough that space-faring races, through the terrestrial ideological and religious insanity, already shifted three of their homeland planets into uproar, which then had to be brought back under control by outside powers, the Earth human also drives his world and the entire solar system dangerously close to destruction. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_1
    http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=religions
    Are Earth's religions false?
    Religion as the Earth human knows and pursues it, in the form of the adoration of a god, adoration of saints, and as faith in a god, is a horror to the Pleiadians. They consider this form of religion a blind faith based on cult activities, false teachings, lies, and other falsehoods. It is faith that can never be proven as true, and one which contradicts all the truthful and logical foundations of the Creative laws and commandments, and also defies intelligence. Religion embodies a deprivation of the spiritual freedom of the human being. Religion is also a brutal, criminal and exploitative enslavement of the human consciousness, reaching from total dependence, serfdom, and a lack of willpower all the way to uncontrolled fanaticism, mental illness, demonic obsession and utter idiocy.

  • Jay Brown

    The bible cannot possibly be the word of God alone simply because of its very content. Clearly history proves that the Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten established the first attempt at monotheism, choosing much like the Jews and Muslims, one aspect/one god out of their pantheon of many.
    Despite the short lived history of Akhenaten's lone sun worship, like all egyptian cults there was an established set of priests who would attempt to keep alive the beliefs. These mystery schools existed in Egypt and spread out across Western Asia and South East Europe as trade, science and philosophy were also shared.
    Essentially the problem with the god of the jews and therefore the god of christians and muslims is that he is essentially one and the same. Beyond this the archaeological evidence shows us that prior to the Jews being monotheistic, they worshipped a variety of gods. That the god they now worship existed INSIDE the pantheon of gods they already had and not apart from it is historically damning beacuse it shows that they chose.
    Figures such as Abraham also create their own problems with Abraham having his own debateable creation story. Abraham is merely another attempt by man to explain his origins appearing as a combination of Jesus and Adam. Despite the fact that all three monotheistic religions appear under his name as an umbrella term he is ascribed vastly different characteristics ranging from a bedouin farmer to a wealthy landowner. HIs wife Sarah is somehow a great beauty aged 65 and is expedited to the Pharaohs harem despite harems being more or less only related to the storing of women gained from political or financial transactions and treaties between government and other similar entities. Abraham and Sarah use the ruse of being siblings more than once.
    The story of Abraham and Hagar appears to be written to include somehow more Egyptian characters into a narrative that glorifies the characters of Hebrews in the story – that in fact one of the largest agricultural success stories in antiquity was beholden to a single 'Jew' of questionable education, with success or failure based not off of scientific methods that existed at the time like nilometers but the say-so of a foreigner.
    Later on Sarah gives birth in her 90's which also defies biology. The one thing that god has set in stone is a definite limit on the amount of potential births a woman can have over one lifetime. Is Sarah was infertile into old age she would have stopped menstruating like all women. Starting to menstruate would have been a miracle in itself but this is not mentionned in any canon.

    In the period of antiquity in what is now the Holy Land we should see ample evidence that Jerusalem as capital of the United Monarchy was a substantial town, instead archaeological surveys clearly show that that is not the case. Instead it was a tiny hill town that only gained settlers who themselves were refugees from the north of the region such as Israel proper.
    It was the conquest of the region by the Babylonians in and around the 6th century BC that caused the Jewish diasporas. This itself was the catalyst that produced the psychological need to create one all powerful god and also brought those in the diaspora into contact with other civilizations that had a saviour myth. Even so their most powerful God was still worshipped with a wife figure for a long time before being abandoned.
    If we look further beyond bibles and religious books to older texts and myths, we can see that many if not all of the stories in the bible are replications of previous stories. Gilgamesh and Noah, Mises and Moses, Horus and Isis Mer and Jesus and the Virgin Mary. The very fact that the stories are similar is the smoking gun. In the same way it is not possible for popular composers of the past to time travel forwards to steal the work of Andrew Lloyd Webber, it is also not possible for creation myth and religious stories to have existed before those who wish to claim ownership of the today.
    The whole reason why apologetics exists in the first place is because there is much to be corrected, defended and debated within all religions that conflicts with the reality of the situation we are suppsoed to live with.
    The gospels themselves do not agree even as to where Jesus was born and where he lived afterwards. The gospels of Matthew and Luke say that Jesus was born in Bethlehem but the gospel of John says that he was born in Galilee. John also says that he was rejected by the Jews precisely because he was NOT born in Bethlehem.
    I think we can all agree that birthdates need to be fixed for there to be some semblance of truth. Birthplaces at they very very least ought to be the same but they are not showing that Jesus cannot possibly be real if biblical scholarship is to be accepted as truth.
    This is further compoundede by the fact that according to the Bible everybody knew that Jesus had been born, particularly as even King Herod directed the wise men to follow a star in the night sky. Luke says that Jesus was taken to the temple and imediately proclaimed to be the Messiah so it should have been no mystery to Herod. On the other hand Matthew says that Herod didn't find out for at least another two years or so; so again we have clear contradictions to a story that really ought to oly ave one version if it were to be true.
    Furthermore Matthew say that Jesus was boen before Herod died which was in 4BC and of course that they fled to Egypt. Luke on the other hand says that Jesus was born in a census year 10 years after Herod's death. He also doesn't say they left for Egypt and in fact stayed in Nazareth the whole time.

    On the other hand actual people who documented history such as Josephus mention nothing of Jesus. In the Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus literally lists the crimes of King Herod and doesn't mention the slaughter of the innocents in which Herod supposedly ordered the murder of all newborn babies in order to prevent the existence of any messiah character. This is surely a big deal to have occured and would have been somewhere near the top of the list of crimes but Josephus doesn't mention it because it never happened.

    The authorship of all the gospels in highly questionable and only the most ignorant of Christians believes that they were written by Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.
    The four gopsels obviously represented competing schools of philosophy over the figure of Jesus. Their inclusion above all other stories merely exist because it was believed that Jesus ought to be portrayed as someone who really existed rather than the allegorical figures alluded to in the Gnostic gospels not included in the official canon. Portraying agreement of Jesus as a real person was certainly easier than agreeing his back story as so the easier of two tasks was accomplished. As the Gnostic gospels describe the same person but as an obvious fiction it is clear that it was DECIDED that Jesus should only be described as real as that is what makes the canon today.
    Individuals such as Justin Martyr who wrote in Greek quotes heavily from the old testament but never once names Mark, MAtthew, Luke or John. On the other hand he argues with the Gnostic gospel authors about whether Jesus existed or not. The Gnostics were obviously aware that Jesus was not a historic figure and Justin's lack of knowledge or support from Mark, Matthew, Luke and John demonstrates that they weren't around before his death in 165BC.

    Many apologists choose to include highly dubious sources as evidence of Jesus's existence such as Josephus in which he is made to say that Jesus was the Christ – which no card carrying Jew like Josephus would ever say. Josephus writes extensively about other radical movements like the Essenes but mentions next to nothing about Jesus's following or the apostle Paul who was supposedly executed by Nero as he was such a threat.
    Out of Paul's numerous epistles only seven or so are asserted to be genuine by modern scholars; Timothy 1 and 2 , Collosians, Titus and so on are certainly not his work if he did exist and even then authorshp of 'genuine' epistles is asserted rather than outright proven.
    Furthmore Paul's 'genuine' books begin at crucifixion and there is no mention of Jesus being from Nazareth, no mention of Pontius Pilate and certainly nothing about the gospels of Mark Matthew, Luke and John.
    Paul is clearly a parody of the real Apollonius of Tyana who shares the exact same story only with a pre-christian bent.

    Monotheism is a reaction the expanding knowledge of human beings at the time with science, astronomy and mathematics taking problems of existence and explanations out of the heavens and into the grasp of the non religious. The move to place a belief system on top of a hierarchy under continual usurpation by humans is a predictable and expected reaction fromthose within any clergy. Deities are combined and upgraded to sit atop any philosophical structure where logical explanations replace the actions of the gods. When the movements and actions of the stars in the nights sky become predictable and measureable they cease to become the whims and responsibilties of the gods. The move to monotheism merely represents the ideals of priests and clergy to re-assert their own place as powerful authority figures within their own culture, the only other option being choosing a favourite from a patheon when the collective is affected by external threats.

    Indeed persons such as Mohammed, who created Islam were influenced by the cultures and beliefs of the region where he lived. Mohammed clearly combined the Moon God Allah with the Jewish Yahweh to create Islam and acted as a one man show in order to gain control over large areas. The Quran, unlike the bible does not attempt to be a history book as by this point Mohammed was competing with greater numbers of writers, scholars and poets whose work was admired or despised by Mohammed in roughly equal numbers.

    The problems with Islam start almost immediately with Muslims believing they are the children of Abraham based on the story that Abraham impregnated an Egyptian servant/slave named Hagar. But since Abraham didn't exist it is likely that Hagar didn't either. That said Hagar did endure a great deal of suffering with Sarah as her mistress and owner and so is a more sympathetic figure to spring board your religion off of.
    Mohammed lived in a world surrounded by Jewish settlements hundreds of years of and so it should be no suprise that a great deal of reinvention and appropriation occurs.
    The only difference is that for the majority of the Quran Mohammed is the only person who recieves any word from God at all. This is very odd as the exact same god is shown in older books and stories to have spoken to a variety of people across the spectrum from men and women to low and high born people. It is never made clear why God would choose Mohammed over the scores of better educated and more honourable individuals of the region such as the plethora of respected poets but what is clear is that God quickly becomes Mohammed's benefactor and no-one elses.

    Mohammed benefits so personally from his relationship with Allah that even issues that might require some deep introspection are solved with convinient moments of clarity. When Mohammed covets his adopted son's wife, Mohammed is conviniently given the justification to affect a divorce and the morality to pursue her. Why an almighty god would be remotely interested in the sexual wantoness of Mohammed is at direct odds with the supreme majesty alluded to by Muslims. Allah is either an all powerful God not subject to the whims and wants of man or he is a being who creates the possibilties of morally questionable sexual trysts and who demands his share in earthly things created by himself.
    That Allah stipulates his share of booty and captured goods shows that Mohammed's philosophy was more about his own creation of power than divinely received words from the heavens. Furthermore the Quran is chock-a-block with contradictions that range across all subjects which Muslim apologists.
    According to the Quran man was created by; congealed blood, clay, dust, nothing and a drop of sperm. The first Muslim was Abraham, Moses, Mohammed or Jacob. The consumption of wine is an abomination yet promised in heaven and Allah both does and does not forgiv those who worship false gods.

    The lack of consensus on many issues in the Quran is very odd in the face of statements which assert that the Quran is perfection or similar seeing as many statements later have polar opposites delievered with the same authority. The changeablility of ideals and beliedfs more or less mirrors the role that Mohammed himself played in the creation of his own religion. People are directed to act for his temporal benefit, he achieves great wealth and power and individuals are manipulated in situations where ultimately he benefits more than the Allah himself. Many of the stories revolve so heavily around Mohammed that without Mohammed, Allah himself might not exist.

    The overriding theme of all three religions is that one way or the other they all fail the consistency test. Characters asserted to be real are usually undocumented and with more than one history, birthplaces are widespread and conflict with the real historic evidence that we have.
    Creation myths and origin stories are blatantly lifted from previous extant civilizations with impunity and older great civilizations are relegated beneath fictional towns and cities.

    Those of the religious persuasion might wonder why the towns and cities of antiquity are mostly pagan in origin and why hardly any time sensitive evidence from biblical times exists. It is because they never existed. Instead cultures worthy of respect that were superior in custom and beliefs such as the Egyptians were usurped or threatened from within. Christianity was a useful tool for the Roman Empire at a time of political, economic and military crisis that occured from the very real problem of Rome's continuing adoption of other peoples deities. Like the Jews and Ahkenaten elevating one god over the myriad of others was nothing more than a play for power of the morality and therefore the character of the empire. Controlling the character of an empire was just as important as controlling the economy, the military and the politics and none were more than a few degree of seperation from the other.
    Islam had the great benefit of being the last major monotheistic religion and relies heavily on that position to both debunk Judaism and Christianity and exist as the final word of a god who had his final word twice already. Islam's essential rehash of Judaism with more rules, an established hell and the re-working of Jesus is once again a display of man reworking stories rather than receiving words from God.

    History as it stands is not on the side of any religious bok out there no matter how much apologists try to bend it to make it fit their beliefs, they will always be stuck in a priori mode. To be fair no-one except the most militant of atheists has a problem with people having beliefs, it's just that they do not want to be beholden to the beliefs of others. On the other hand i would assert that they aren't 'your beliefs' because very few religious people 'come to believe' as opposed to being raised within a church. Anything that is remotely divine is denied to you in my opinion as you are merely accepting other peoples beliefs rather than forming your own.
    I suppose i would prefer a more sophisicated construct that matched today's lifestyle and cultural continuum but on the whole religion still involves the usurpation of man's discoveries by precisely what those discoveries reject or disaprove.

  • Jo

    You are delusional, my friend! Besides, because of religion the world is in a constant state of war and hate!

  • becci

    all religions are wrong christians are wrong one they havent been around that long hindi is the longest religion being around 3000 years and its based on spirits and recarnation spirits and ghosts are fact many including myself have encountered experiences with psychic, spiritual and ghost experiences i was bought up around chistian faith but then i questioned because one big lie of them all is jesus if he was real he would have been black or dark skinned especially going back all those years ago and where he was born yet we portray him as being white that in itself is a lye also the bible says that there is only one mediator between us and god and that is jesus yet all the religions christians and catholics have priests popes bishops etc that mediate between u and christ they are men nothing special yet we worship them because they control us, its mother nature that controls our universes and spirit all religions have bought nothing but war murder and depression i get enlightened when i meditate and get intune with nature like animals and there instincts we are the only animals that have made religions dogs and tigers and birds do not worship a god or religion so are they going to hell for not believeing no there not because that would be cruel christianity originated from catholics catholics originated from america the biggest greediest country in the world and behind these religions are the same greedy people that control and manipulate us when you find the truth there will be freedom just like the other animals we share this world with that are not controlled by religion im not atheist because there is a greater energy than us our planet is nothing compared to what else is out there i believe in the greater good and that humans should be free like the animals we share life with religion does not make you free and all those who are really religious with there beliefs thats fine but do not call others swines when myself have done research deeply on every aspect of religions you have been bought up with your ways and beliefs and taught what to believe my free spirit has pondered everything and is still pondering because my spirit is free it is not controlled by man yet communicates with spirits and is intune with instincts and nature of which was here before man x

  • Joseph Warner

    The Holy Christian Bible is the word of God. That is proof right there that God exists because he wrote that book. You only have to read it to realise that God created the bible so that man could have a celestial manual on how to live life and a map of our universal history and future. Without the bible, the world would be in constant war and hate. Atheists do not believe in God or the bible, they are idiots and swine.

  • Fact

    Jesus existed asnight isday.The Turin shroud andBible is prove that he existed andd theBible isthe actual word of God.

  • zombie netizen

    OMG….can pronounce the word "God" ?

    Pic de Bugarach: French commune home to 20,000 ‘doomsday cultists’ awaiting alien salvation
    http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/pic-bugarach-french-commune-home-20-000-doomsday-210932058.html

    OMG…

  • tiara

    LOL you didn't prove anything in this "study" just your opinion on religion. There are many artifacts and findings that religion is accurate, maybe you should study more. Here's a test for you…go buy a wiji board and summon demons up trust me you'll believe in afterlife after that you ignorant pig. Another thing, with scientists they are thinking and studying with a human aspect for life not a spiritual one. Of course you're not going to understand religious things because God didnt intend us to view them from a plain human mind that's why there's the saying "filled with the Holy ghost" reading His word gives you a better understanding of what He was trying to get across. Once humans stop reading the Bible in literal meanings then maybe you'd actually get the words. I've witnessed God in my life many times, He's performed alot of miracles on my behalf and there's no other explanation how I'd be so blessed unless it were God. Athiests are just mad because God is like a parent figure and as humans we're held accountable for our wrong doing and rebellion, some people don't want to feel they have to live their life accordingly and in a "box" they also don't like the feeling of having to possibly suffer consequences of their actions so they "do what thou wilt" like the satanists believe in. Religion will always be argued, denied, which one is true which one isn't until the day Jesus returns and shows the real truth. "EVERY knee shall bow" if you don't acknowledge Him now you WILL. Just know…no matter how much you may HATE religion, God, He still loves you and gives you plenty of opportunities each day to accept Him whether you realize it or not! I don't see how people believe in science to a certain extent anyways…they say we came from monkeys, fish, evolution idk clearly something had to make those creatures as well LOL. Reason why we're so closely related to other creatures because we all came from the same creator DUH haha. And one last thing your article states you did a study for 5 years and found your conclusions…not sure how you came up with 100% accuracy within 5 years when there are REAL, SMART, EDUCATED theologists that have been studying religion for hundreds and thousands of years…there will never be PROOF on earth because God wants us to have FAITH; believing in something we cannot see is ultimate faith. I don't need proof in order to love Him, I just read His Word that he wrote in the Bible himself and that's how I feel close to Him. the path of destruction is broad and easy to follow but the gates of Heaven are on a narrow road. God bless your life I hope you find your way.

  • pepe

    I'm only gonna say that who ever wrote this article has a huge hate towards religion and needs to overcome his own mental problems and overcome the fear of death. Let other people believe whatever they want to believe and choose your own path.

  • Cristina

    In Saudi Arabia, all citizens are reqeirud to be Muslims, and the public practice of other religions is forbidden. Private practice of other religions is sometimes allowed and sometimes persecuted; there is no law protecting even this.Iran is officially a Twelver Shiite state. Some other religions (Christianity, Judaism, Zoroastrianism) are permitted, but are not allowed to proselytize; and they are sometimes persecuted even if they don't. The Bahai faith is not allowed at all. Sunni Muslims are subject to some restrictions also.In China, all religious organizations have to be authorized by the government. This has given rise to conflict when the government appoints religious leaders different from what the religion itself chooses. There are state-appointed Catholic, Protestant, Buddhist, Taoist, and Muslim leaders. These are not always approved by the religious organizations outside of China. Those who practice religion outside these state-approved organizations are subject to severe persecution.In Turkey, since the secularization by Ataturk in the early 20th century, the government permits all religions but keeps them all under close surveillance. Special religious clothing (the veil, the fez) is not permitted to be worn in public. Turkey is predominantly Muslim, and there is some prejudice against other religions.In North Korea, virtually no religious practice is allowed except a limited amount by foreigners. Worship is considered a political offense.Cuba was for years officially atheist, and religious practice was seriously discouraged, with some persecution. But now religious people are even allowed to join the Communist Party. The government is secular rather than atheist, and religious practice is pretty much free.These are a few varied examples of governments which have restricted religious practice. In our time, the States that restrict religious freedom are mostly Muslim or Atheist.I can't think of any other belief system that does this in modern times.Religion is the source of meaning and values for many people, and restricting it restricts the growth of the human soul. In countries where a religion is imposed, it loses some of its growth potential. In countries where religion is not restricted or mandated by the government, it flourishes and leads to better values and ways of life.

  • dream

    Researcher, What makes u believe the current copies of holy books are the exact ones that Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed brought to humans. How if God has done his job sending us perfect people with perfect books, but we (humans) has made changes in his revelations till they got full of contradictions?

  • Anonymous

    May Jesus forgive all these scientists..

  • Harlod NCO

    The worst part about religious indoctrination is that it is generational. What I mean is there are literally centuries of brainwashing and customs to break through. These people are so brainwashed that it may take centuries more to decontaminate them. My gues sis that if it came down to it they would rather take the bullet to the head than accept their religion was bogus.

  • KIIN

    I just awoke from a 25 year MORMON / Christian fantasy and im pretty pissed, but more than angry im determined to prove what i can do as a human being with no so called divine instruction and restrictions.

    The sooner the better we wakeup and realise that no amount of praying is going to make things better.

    We are alone, but we are powerful creatures that have the ability to be amazing, if we just come together and work for the common good of one almighty superior progressive intelligent empire – things are going to be SO GOOD.

    * also, we shouldnt feel we need to be good " or else "

    We should want to be good and moral, because being good comes with so many rewards right here and right now.

    being good is progressive, its peaceful, its joyful…. i dont need religion to teach me this, i dont need to be scared of a fantastical diety to want to do this, i dont need to be rewarded with heaven, or bliss, or 70 virgins when i die for me to want to do good in this world.

  • Carmine Gorga

    This “study” plumbs depths of ignorance never before explored in the annals of mankind. Where to start? An appropriate point might be an analysis of the mish-mash made of the conception of time in modern science. A useful finish might be an analysis of the mystical concept of God as the Timeless One.

  • Joe

    Huh? Neither the bible nor Christianity nor any other religion is now or ever was an 'encoded science' (whatevercthat is suppsosed to mean) that somehow became 'corrupted'. There is not now nor was there ever any astronomy or human physiology on the bible; it was was written by ignorant, superstitious, pere-scientific goat herders and it shows. The bible is precisely as crazy as it seems. It does have lots of astrology and other unscientific, nonsensical ideas in it however, such as the notion of a 'firmament'.

  • amadrigalme

    I see what Mohamed is saying. Mo is NOT saying who the books were written by, but he is stating a fact in saying there is no scientific evidence presented in the article and the title is misleading. If we (meaning me) as atheists attemp to present evidence, we should do just that, present evidence, not cunjecture, and certainly not a misleading headline that rallies the troops (humanist, atheist, agnostic, etc.) We (meaning me) (humanist, atheist, agnostic, etc.) should NOT play the same gotcha game as the "faithers" our job is to present evidence using the scientific methhod. Leave emotion out and let logic ring!

  • Truth

    The religious books only don't make sense when are treated as such. Because they're not. The bible, for example, is the less religious book in the world! It's astrology, astronomy and human physiology been mythologized. The religion and it's institution: the church are criminals about turn what was once a encoded science into a literal nonsense in order to gain control over the primitive and superstitious minds. The bible is a victim – as just as all the empty headed church goers and fanatics out there.

  • Joe

    Shallow analysis of religion here (and lame attempt at humor). Religion isn't about control, it's about mortality. Death makes life a surreal tragedy at base, a fact we live with constantly but never want to accept. And it's not the 'mystery' of death that fucks with our heads, but rather what we know about it that does – namely – that it is the extinguishment of our awareness. The main difference between an atheist and a theist is that the atheist acknowledges these hard truths openly whereas the theist denies them, first and foremost to themselves. I've never observed any believer consistently act as though they REALLY thought there was a tri-O God observing them and an afterlife to come. When they're loved ones die, they mourn them like someone who knows they're gone forever, not like some one who they really believe has 'gone on to a better place' where they will eventually reunite.

    It's a pretty neat trick to be able to convince yourself you will live forever. Humans are so fucked up.

  • Brent Meeker

    Why would anyone bother to publish a scientific study of what is so obviously true. What's next? Water is wet?

  • M&ms

    This is nonsense, everyday thousands of people realised they don't believe in their "God" anymore, and yet they're not disoriented, they still have values, they don't become angry. I believe there won't be any revolution and religion will always exist in a way or another even if there is nothing rational in it.

  • FTaqiu

    Heii..how about u make some research about Islam. Im sure your answer all gonna be there.

  • andrew

    Well, Man created the language the books were written in. "God" did not.
    For you see if "God" were real, why would He create books of religious beliefs that contradict one another?

  • jenu

    hoo…yet, u don't know the a answer. Read something about the following: big-bang, artificial-life, DNA , evolution, artificial amino acid …

  • testifyer

    there's a new "religion" its called humanism!

    come on people, religion isnt stoping anyone for doing wrong, religion is stimulating people for hate!!

    Religion is against human instinct, with religion we forget who and what we really are!

  • Mohamed

    Where is the scientific proof here that all religious books were written by man?!! That’s what I'm saying..Scientific research and scientific methodology has nothing to do with this article with its misleading title..It's merely a philosophical position has already been adopted by some people long time ago..There are nothing about any research conducted to support this claim.

  • Janice Lane

    I think what the scientists are saying is that if a religious book is written by a man, it can't be the word of god because it was written by a human being. i think that pretty much sums it all up…i could be wrong tho..lol

  • Mohamed

    You call this crap a "Scientific proof" ? I found nothing to do with Science in it..This is not more than several-centuries-old philosophical argument poorly and naively portrayed as "Scientific discovery"..What was the test? the data collected? the data Interpreted?!

  • larahaddad

    I come from a country where we say: If Religion didn't exist ; we would have invented something that looks like it" you may be right but people will live in universal disorder and unorganized world if there were no " CONTROL SYSTEMS" …If people didn't fear “GOD” , killing and stealing would be a daily normal activity….for example.

    He who invented religion is smart somehow he succeeded to control for thousands of years as you said- the entire surrounding!!

    Lara Haddad from Lebanon; it is A small country but we are smart people.
    .

  • Sadashiv

    Scientits can explain physical phenomenons up to certian point beyond which they have no explanation. Einstein has been quoted to say "I wish I knew how GOD thiks", which says it all.

  • Goodgulf

    Oh please, anyone can easily practice science. It's actually pretty simple, and only requires a few steps. You are being disingenuous.

  • Mohamed Elbadry

    I guess the last paragraph explain the wisest advise for those have long personal or collective belief. Remedy is difficult in such cases but they may help sane societies to discover more of our cultural diseases.

  • Vandy Perry

    It is so very sad to see how many people in the world are still suffering from their religous delusions. These "worshipers," are the victims of mind control, just the same as the tyrants of Cambodia and North Korea would deploy today. They are helpless to know the truth because they have been brainwashed for their entire lives, as have their parents, their siblings, their neighbors, and co-workers. Whole communities in complete denial of facts, jumping up and down, clapping their hands, singing praises, and glorfying no one but an imagination. They have self-manipulated their brain chemistry and become "worship junkies." Thankfully modern technology, and tools like the internet, will champion the distribution of factual history, and ultimately be the savior of them all. It may take a couple more generations to free the worshipers, and millions of worshipers will go to their graves still beleiving in their god(s) and messiahs, but it won't be long now until the world will finally have their eyes open, because the truth was there here whole time. Bibles are bullshit… "FATHER, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME," are the words of a dying Jesus man who has just realized that he wasted his entire life acting a fool and god doesn't care about him at all. If you worship Jesus Christ, you will die the same way as Jesus Christ, crying like a big baby because there is no god you can prove at all ~

  • jacko

    And so all of humanity hailed in the new priest and new god. Science and the scientist. Only through science will you learn the truth. (unless of course 100C has nothing to do with love) And the scientist is your only Shepard. (The only one who can decipher gods laws) Its all a power play. Who do you trust? Why? So this author isnt just trying to make money and a name for himself?(now whose delusional) The authors arguments are even largely semantic and not scientific at all.

  • wetwillie

    I have lifted a passage from the Bible that is spoken by some men who where dead set against the followers of Jesus as well. They were trying their best to stamp out this growing fellowship. Take specific note of the last two sentences:
    ACTS 5,34:

    " But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men be put outside for a little while. 35 Then he addressed the Sanhedrin: “Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. 36 Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. 37 After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. 38 Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

    Wise words.
    2000 years later and you guys are still at it! I submit that better than you have tried, and miserably failed, in your "fight against God"!

  • holi ?

    "Seek ye the truth ?"

    Mother Theresa had.

    You also willing to devote your life to seek the truth ?

    In the spiritual world and codes, it is believed that once you know the truth, you are not allowed to dis-vow. If you wish to, most likely you would be "set-up" and death in the hands of others too. But in such a scenario, the rhetoric and glorification would mostly likely be "dying for others sins too !"

  • denz

    So how can you breath and think ? Can you answer that ? Who made you ? You Sun of a beach. Answer this question first Dr Sanreso.

  • Sagor

    Come in the right path, in the true path.. Or are buying fuel to burn yourself in the hell.

  • FreddieB

    @benjamin It's good that you have doubts. I've never been a Christian or religious, but for a few years have been researching Christianity and the Bible. It seems to me that either Jesuss didn't exist and The Church invented the myth or that if Jesus did exist he was a demented fool.

    Claiming to be the Son of God would seem to be the claim of an idiot, especually when the god he was claiming to be the son of was a god invented by Edomite Bedouins.

    Obviously most Jews(who invented the religion of Judaism and owned the Old Testament) didn;t belive the prattlings of an over zealous prophet/street preacher and are STILL waiting for their Messiah.

    The Christian god required meetings of 200 men to decide what/who/ the essence of god was and that he was indeed a three-headed, 6 legged god.

    Any real god wouldn't require mere humans to decide who/what he/she/it was!

    Good luck with your non-belief. It's a good state to be in.

  • seti

    When the European invaded, pillaged and robbed the the continent of Afrika and stole the Admonitions of the Maat, it was then he took what he later turned into utter nonsense the things that were not of him. Everywhere he goes, he has a tendency to kill everything.

  • Nick

    @Zeeea

    You can't find which book in christianity is real, and it's true, they have so many holes. You can only find answers to all of your questions perfectly, with regards to religion, in ISLAM.

  • Zeeea

    At last …an article I can applaud! Ive researched the biblical scriptures for years and found they are full of holes and cannot be the word og God …so its refreshing to read the truth for once :o) Keep up the good work and lets hope the delusional get a grip asap …for everyones sake …

  • Ross

    Well Most religions have texts they assume are from an all god being. from Hindi to the Abraham religions (Islam, Jewdiesm, Christian) The only one that seems to shy away from that is Buddhism, but even Buddha himself did not call it a religion so much as a philosophy.

  • billy

    I do not believe in any god or gods period. I still don't see how of all evidence that science has produce over decades and the prove of life. that religious folks will still have closed mind.

  • Liz S

    I am always encouraged when reading these comments by just how many 'thumbs down' there are for the god-botherers. The tide is turning guys, the truth is out, it's official – you're all nutters!

  • manjit

    belive in god& following the books leads to a successful and peaceful life. actually its not by miracle bt it says discipline of life. only a disciplined person can reach the golden goals. ya there are some evils in it but if we filter the goods it matters .thus humans called civilised. let it b any religion. take my words those who dnt believe god, 1s u have to.

  • truth will set you free

    Oh and for the record, God doesn't burn anyone in H3ll. The Bible clearly states from dust you came and to dust you shall return. When you die you go back to dirt. Plain and simple folks. Do you think when Adam and Eve died they were rewarded for disobeying? No they just ceased to exist they did not go to heaven and God did not tell them they were going to burn in H3ll. Same with us, if everyone died and either went to Heaven or H3ll then there would be no need for a resurrection now would there, because everyone would already be somewhere else. There will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous the righteous to everlasting life and the unrighteous to judgment. In this life we are going to determine how we are viewed by our Creator so that when his judgment comes upon this Earth we may make it through. There will be people that make it through Armageddon making a class of people that never had to die. Kinda like in Noah's day when everything else was destroyed only Noah and his family were saved. I'm hoping I will be one of those that never had to die. That would be Awesome. I hope you all can make it too.

  • Mohamjip

    I would appreciate if the so-called scientists would prefice their findings with "Judeo-Christian" religions. Not all religions claim to have their scriptures coming from a higher power or God.

  • Tim Rue

    Humans did not always use such high level abstraction as is required of written language. And it is from time prior to such use, to a transition need, due population growth, leading to higher level abstraction use. However, this new level of abstraction use also lead to the discovery and use of abstraction deceptively to gain real value without real value exchange.

    During the transition from a natural animal instinct level of communication (i.e. birds fly north and south seasonal in thousand mile flights to same locations, crabs move inland before hurricanes influence at locations if hitting land, etc..)….. humans experienced disconnection from natural influences they were used to, a crossover leading to hallucination in terms of higher level abstractions effort to explain natural instinct level communication. And this became the basis of what extrapolated into religions.

    Intentional wrongful use of the tool of abstraction — word equals meaning as defined by those who use it as intended correctly having beneficial advancing communication enabling vs. those who use same abstractions to deceive, to lie, to extract unearned value from others) has expanded leading to another social stress point breakdown in communication needs.

    This time the solution will be found not in abstraction but outside of abstraction, viewing the higher level abstraction tool for what it really is……. Just a tool, intended to be used correctly.

    for more – https://www.facebook.com/pages/Abstraction-Physics-101/170311386325230

  • blake

    I believe that there is a God
    – That does does not make it true.

    I come from a line of evangelists
    – and you are just carrying on family tradition without giving it some critical thought.

    and have had 2 family members who God showed Heaven to and 1 who he showed Hell to
    – and how has this been proven? have they members come back to life with pics/videos?

    Second when you think about all the beauty in this world and how science says that we all evolved from one cell, it is extremely impossible
    – It's obvious that you have absolutely no understanding of the ToE and yet you blindly accept that god made us all from dust?

    I suggest you watch the documentary 'The Case for Christ'
    – I have and it's complete tosh and christian propaganda. I suggest you get yourself an education and not from religious based websites.'

    this guy was an atheist and set out to prove to his Christian wife and her family that they were nuts because no creator existed. BUT what happened is he ended up proving to himself that God did exist.
    – if he were truly an atheist than his atheism was extremely weak or in this case he said he was an atheist for the sake of making a sorry doc.

    The Christian religion is full of good values such as "do unto others as you would have others do unto you", "Love your enimies, do good to them who despitefully use you", "Love one another as you love yourselves
    – i am an atheist and i don't need the fear of god or your shallow religion to be a good person. I do good out of respect for my fellow man and that we all have to share this comunity.

    what if you lived your life as a Christian, full of faith and giving all your love to God then died and found that there was nothing? What then? What harm would have been done? Now look at things from the other side. What if you throw in the towel and say that God doesn't exist, a savior is impossible, we all evolved. BUT then you died and found out you were wrong?
    – ahhh, it is truly shameful that people still use the outdated Pascals Wager argument these days. Your statement here is a basically hedging a bet. Also, please stop insulting evolution until you can come up with proof of creation that will stand up to scientific scrutiny. Evolution has pretty much been proven and to think otherwise is complete intellectual dishonesty. Change over time is a fact.

    Just saying, that while you are taking time off from "religion", take that time to do research and search your heart.
    – and just how do i do research with my heart? It's nothing but an organ

  • Real Albanian

    Please don't use the name Albanian, because we had suffered for more than 1000 years because of religion.
    The religion of Albanians is Albanianism, so when you talk with the name of Albania, please don't talk about religion.

    P.S
    That what you said is bullshit.

  • Benjamin

    Thank you guys for making up my mind. You all are so so so stupid. I want nothing to do with you idiots. Goodby Christians. I'd rather be doing my own thing and find my own spiritual peace I don't need your hocus pocus brainwashed BS.

    See yalls latah!!!!

  • jocco

    Add two wrongs don't make a right to the golden rule and you've got all you need..

  • Allknowing

    Firstly, to all of you who do believe in god… well, I'm speaking to you now. Yep, it's me. God. Or Godo to my friends. And it's about time you stopped believing in me, and found your own way in the world. You see I gave you free choice and personal responsibility so that you could do what you like, as long as you take responsibility for it. So stop blaming me for all your problems, and thinking I'm going to fix them. I'm not. I'm off on holiday to Thailand to play with the ladyboys. So you are going to have to grow up and deal with reality all on your own.

    And yes, evolution is true. How else did you get here? Creation? Are you thick? You have mountains of evidence – literally mountains. Mountains that are hundreds of millions of years old. And dinosaur fossils. Don't you think if the bible was literally true, somebody mighta mentioned the great big fecking dinosaurs??? "And Moses parted the sea… and lo… holy smokes, there was a brontosaurus blocking the way!" I mean, how could you write a "history" of the world, and leave out the bleeding dinosaurs???

    So that's it. I'm now retired from the deity business. Happy camping. And please stop making all those wars. All the smoke from those bombs really gets in my eyes and I hate seeing children getting blown to pieces. It's depressing.

    Yours,
    God.

  • Albanian

    haha…then pls say this about Quran xD…i would wreally like to hear this from you…Quran tells us about bing band (1400 years ago) about the metal that is not createt on earth about the land in this earth about oil apsolutly about everything (sorry about my english)

  • laffy

    I once met a man that said that beleieving in God was mans way of being lazy, that he would just pray for gos to do his work instead of getting off his butt and doing it hisself. I truely could not beleive what came out of his mouth.

  • Himel Dibakor

    It's time to kick-out all religion from our socity. LOLzzzzzzzzzzz

  • milkysouth

    I believe that there is a God. I come from a line of evangelists and have had 2 family members who God showed Heaven to and 1 who he showed Hell to. Second when you think about all the beauty in this world and how science says that we all evolved from one cell, it is extremely impossible. I suggest you watch the documentary "The Case for Christ". This guy was an athiest and set out to prove to his Christian wife and her family that they were nuts because no creator existed. BUT what happened is he ended up proving to himself that God did exist. You can also think of things this way. The Christian religion is full of good values such as "do unto others as you would have others do unto you", "Love your enimies, do good to them who despitefully use you", "Love one another as you love yourselves". How is any of this bad advice? What if you lived your life as a Christian, full of faith and giving all your love to God then died and found that there was nothing? What then? What harm would have been done? Now look at things from the other side. What if you throw in the towel and say that God doesn't exist, a savior is impossible, we all evolved. BUT then you died and found out you were wrong? Which has the greater consequence? Just saying, that while you are taking time off from "religion", take that time to do research and search your heart.

  • su moe

    What would replace religion? How about the "Golden Rule": do unto others as ye would have them do to you… very simple, yet all encompassing. This would eliminate cheating, murder, torture, stealing, lying….etc…..

  • leta

    read: Quran online THERE IS THRUE

  • wonderman

    is there any reference to this, or are you just making stuff up!!! Until you provide any reference for this article then there is no point in reading! I'm an atheist and I believe that all religious text books are man made from the same reasons you wrote about here, but this article states that "scientists have proven" so I would like to have some reference to this claim.

  • flora

    you damn right…it was always and everything, about control….and only control….

  • Ryan Dennis

    For Benjamin,

    I can save you from the clutches of Lucifer who has deceived you. Please reply to this post and tell me where you live so I can come around and convince you about Jesus.

  • bourne identity

    Some are puzzled to read in the newspapers, "Lightning strikes statue of jesus" in Ohio, USA in 2010, and reduced to…..

    Any curses/ condemnations or verses to substantiate ?

    What about to instill fear ?

    Just search the internet as indicated.

    Some seems to borne the "bourne identity".

  • kathleen Tamilio-Awed

    Living in the fourth dimension and on our way to the fifth for those who are ready. The rest will leave their physical bodies and rejoin the collective souls to decide.

  • Heretic

    yOU will burn in hell for renouncing Jesus and God. I would try to save you but you sound too far gone.

  • Benjamin

    I'm Christian but i am doubting the truth of it all. I have always thought Jesus existed and he performed miracles and was the Messiah. He as the Son of God bestowed great glory on us by sacrificing himself for us. I just think it could be a myth though because it's all so ridiculous I mean he walked on water and he fed the 5000 and he cured illnesses. It's just not possible in the realms of science or physics. Was he a con man or a composite character 'sun god' from many different cultures??? The Bible was written hundreds of years after the supposed death of Jesus and the Bible is just so crazy, they talk of demons jumping around, great floods and some guy building a big boat (stolen from Sumerian epic of Gilgamesh) I read this article today and it just clicked with me. God don't write on a piece of paper and any man who claims he is speaking or writing from God I'm afraid is a nutter, a schizo. I just need time away from religion and I'm not going to by suppressed by anymore crazy bible brainwashing. I renounce the christian church today. I renounce the fictional bible. Begone and leave us you tool of man.

  • Bikash Uchoi

    I just want to make it clear that the religious books are not written in human wisdom its all by the wise and vision of God, Almighty can use any individual to represent himself. Believe in almighty for if there is Birth there will be death, think about life after death.I am not saying about any particular religion for God is one only people pronounce his holy name in different way.

  • Martin

    It is astounding that so many people with a first-world education behind them could still accept such horrifyingly witless assertions as are made by the religious on behalf of their faith. Such laughably retarded garbage as is in the 'holy' literature consists of both sinister and idiotic statements and assertions that defy all sense and reason. Religion was the first socio-political control mechanism , wielded by the unscrupulous against the fearful, the ignorant and the downright stupid. In any other sphere of human activity if you were to say that you believe you are in communication with an invisible intelligence which created everything and can alter reality on a whim , and whom you can petition to do so, in your favour , …. you would find yourself undergoing a mandatory psychiatric assessment and potentially be sectioned and detained under the Mental Health Act , but say its your religion, and you get away with it, some will even 'respect' you for being such a delusional retard !!. I leave you all with a quote : " The stupidity of religion is not sufficient for its demise , as long as people fear death , there will be religious belief " … Sigmund Freud — The Future of an Illusion…

  • Anonymous
  • Jules Manson

    Most of this research has already been done by many other independent scientists.

  • Tesa

    The mere fact that we are going back and forth taking out of our time to text in our thoughts is what the "dr." wanted…..jejeje. We have fallen into his trap. We are part of his so called research. He through the hypothesis out there and now he begins. I really think that all you ignorant who commented against the holy scripture are the ones who are so controlled by the idea that you can possibly do as you please with no care in the world. That you are so scared, terrified of what's to come or if anything is to come, how are you going to deal with it and so on that you prefer to believe in nothing. Human race can not live a life without having its control. If you can not control it it is not. Ask yourself is this all there is? Is this all+ came to be for? Live to die? Difference between us the believers and you the hopeless is that different from you we can answer the posed question and be fine with it. YOU on the other hand have NO control over it. I feel pity for your soul, you flesh not so much you will perish and along with you so will your words.
    To the thing that stated that one would be a fool to think that if one would be falling Down in a car from an open space on the road that GOD would take the car and place it back into the road. You are so true in believing this you do. It is not that he can not do this very act but more so he would not do it because as sick minded as you are you would forget that this happened. Now if GOD lets you survive this accident and live to tell it as well worship Him, then and only then would you be worthy of such action from HIM. But he knew then, that very moment you lost them that YOU WOULD NEVER praise him for neither, there for neither did you receive… You irate!

  • riyad

    atheist is a person who said 'there is no GOD' but when he fell in danger he first utter GOD name. we hate this ungrateful men

  • Kit Kittappa

    If my car falls in a ditch and I (and a whole crowd of people) pray, is there anyone stupid enough to believe that god will make the car to rise up and land on the road?

    Your rational thinking tells you that prayer is useless and god does not exist but the brain-washing you got as you grew up and the fear of going against the superstitions of your society prevents you from expressing the conclusions of your rational thought.

  • pateriot

    So now we know that religion is nonsense. I wonder what belief system it will be replaced with. It would appear that humans as a whole must have a belief system to help them make sense of the World around them and to believe that they have more control of things outside their abilities. Should we put all our faith in science then? It seems that evry few years they discover that much of what was "scientifically proven" needs to be updated and changed. Perhaps we should all believe in Scientology. After all, it does have Science as part of its name.

    I say that if someone believes in Gid and that this makes this person a better person than what is so wrong with that? I do not understand the animous towards Christianity. Love, forgiveness, charity, clean healthy living, resposibility, morality… all of these help build our society into a stronger and better one. Are you so insecure as a person that if someone believes you are going to Hell because you do not live according to their beliefs that you somehow cannot handle it? Or is it the fact that they might porn less accesible bother you?

  • XaotikDesigns

    and yet after five years, they still don't supply any proof to their conclusion…

  • Jules Manson

    REVIEW OF A VERY IMPORTANT ARTICLE THAT THE AMERICAN MAINSTREAM PRESS HAS IGNORED

    After a lifetime of agnosticism and only recently assuring myself that I am an atheist, it only took me a few minutes of common sense to derive at the same conclusion that it took scientists five years to resolve. But I understand exactly why they needed to do this. My findings would have been based on conjecture whereas theirs were a result of undeniable, rigorous, scientific research. Otherwise, no one else would have taken their findings seriously.

    I applaud their efforts and yes it was money well spent. Although I am a libertarian I would have gladly paid my taxes if my government would fund many more meaningful endeavors such as this one. But wait, what is the Institute of Historical Research? I am not really certain because this article is out of Washington DC but the language itself is in Oxford English. A Google search indicates that it is a London based think tank (research) at the University of London. It is part of the School of Advanced Study at the University of London.

    I should have known better that to think that the United States federal government which prints "In God We Trust" on its currency and inserts "under God" on its pledge of allegiance would have ever funded such an effort. And, it is done despite the First Amendment stipulation of free expression that demands a separation of church and state.

    This really is a very important op-ed piece. Although I am certain that there are other very detailed articles on this subject, the story should have made all the papers and mass media in the United States. But instead it was silent on this.

    I was also mislead by the title because it infers that they have completed their work. Because of this, at first only wanted to give this very short article a very satisfactory 5 out of 10 for the fine opinion writing and acknowledging a few important details.

    However, when the final report is released I want to an article that details much more information such as who and how many scientists there were: the difficulties that they encountered; how much money it took to fund it; what was meant by all religious books and which religions were exposed besides the major ones?

    I believe that a few more phone calls, interviews, Internet research, and good old fashioned foot work would have provided some of these answers. The writer could have also provided links to related sources.

    Regardless, the report will have to wait until the year 2015. My final rating is very respectable 7 out 10. Good job to the writer. I intend on sharing this on facebook and placing this on my own website.

  • Alec

    Two words:

    NO SHIT

  • walkindalight

    How typical "Kierstal" – pick on one little thing of no significance in an attempt to discredit all the things of major significance.

  • Mick

    Ofcourse religion is made, it is an iterpretation of an inner belief we are not just animals but spiritual beings unfortunately over thousands of years of wars and oppression religions had to be designed to teach uncivilized man morals through fear of redemption for their actions if they didn't conform to structured society. In one way this helped man out of the dark ages and push progress forward without the consistant set backs of violent tyranous rulers that kept us in survival mode stemming the development of sofisticated society. Unfortunately in order for such a system to work the formed universal moral guides or religions needed to convince the population to beleive it's authenticaty for a very long time! So new tactics of punishment, fear and reward were introduced which were impregnated deep into our family & community life so in order to be adequate one had to conform to the teachings of their peers which the churches established through deep ties into family life and daily functionality in society so over decades this became the law of civilized man, which today has no purpose anymore because as spiritual beings we will eventuall all become more in tune to universal spirituality as we grafualy denounce false scriptures dispute their moral intentions as we are way beyond that now as modern people which is all  the healer (ISA) or Jesus as we called him tried to teach us apparently he was a good thing that was destroyed by sick fanaticals so that we can all see beyond the weak mindedness, fuled through violence & fear these are the designs of evil controllers when the only science, religion and understanding we need and its free ro all is a universal one that we all can access through respect to each other understanding beyond what we were lead to brlieve for so long once the blind folds of churches & governments is removed. ISA apparently taught this, his second coming is not physical but in all of us if we can accept love like his then we will be like him this is the second coming and already happening as we speak, unfortunately hundreds of years after his death false misinterprated scriptures were written that completely misconcieved the purpose and formed a book of morals for barbarians once again putting ob a new double blind fold to mislead us for hundreds of more years, giving power to the wrong and rule to primitive circles of men that disregard women as equals or at all in society, rape little boys and tell you will go to hell if you don't give them money or kill on behalf of a merciful god! For those of you that are free & progressed or simply understand our ancestors were linked geneticaly to gods, and realise that we are made up of the same energy that makes up the entire universe and contains all it's knowledge within this does not to be in books and temples its its written on the walls of the greatest temples ever already…within each if us an universal understanding for every intelligent form of life to embrace whether you are one from the heavens or on earth you come from the same knowledge the entire universe vibrates to and when you die you will be constantly recycled into the kingdom of the heavens and onwards through eternity to enjoy the beauty of all that is, ever was and ever will be because you are part of it all the time a soul cannot be created or destroyed its only transformed just be careful what you want to be as you will be it whether you pray with child malestors or argue your existence with Darwinian scientists it doesnt matter because you haven't taped into universal conviosness yet and still exist at the lower plane controlled by week minded groups and financial orders instead of accepting the universal truth and being everything you ever dreamed of being and everything you are yet to dream! We can all start today bye walking out of the religious church and into the church of everything that is real, put down the book of fears (bible) and meditate for a while thus gradually returning your mind to nature (gods true temple) Stop our craving for material possession and doing what everyone else is into and stay away from 9-5 lifestyles (there are much more inteliigent ways to live in quality then bring ones slave day in day out! contribute but don't serve. Be Open Be Free! 

  • Shawn Nippard

    Religion= BULLSHIT! Except to the gullible and naive! That's a fact! Deal with it!

  • walkindalight

    Reply to The Cure – Thank you for expressing the logical conclusion of your God-hating perspective. I can see that your beliefs have brought you great love & joy & peace & goodwill to man. (Not). We're all by nature biased, but you don't have to stay ignorant. There is plenty of evidence of the reality of God IF you are open-minded. However, religion is a different matter all together. "Religious books" aren't the problem. The problem is that people who have those "religious books" don't allow God to change them from being hate-filled control freaks, and they just swing over to carry out their pathetic & evil schemes in God's name. I am glad you aren't like that! You are happy to be hateful on your own terms. Oh, …how convenient that you forget about how much in your life that you are benefited by that came from God-fearing, praying & believing Christians. But hate is like that. It makes you blind to all that is good. For what it's worth, Jesus sets people free from hate, but only if they want to be free.

  • speekma

    Actually the Bible says over and over in dozens of passages that the word is everlasting, and god does not change. The god of the old testament is the god of the new one. The laws of the old testament are NOT made redundant by the new one. But then, like the vast majority of Christians, you probably haven't even read the Bible, have you? Just the bits that made you feel good? How cute.

    Hell sure does sound scary, but it's time to grow up and realise it doesn't exist. The only reason you think it does exist is because you have been told it does, and you are afraid. Don't waste your only life living in terror of bogeymen and the infinite wrath of a petty bronze age god.

  • The Cure

    Religion is the devil he deceived you because these books were written by men in the physical plane, something that God if it ever existed would never do. Look at how many people have been divided and conquered for religion, how many died, how many were enslaved, how many perished needlessly.Religion is evil, it is the harbinger of hatred and mass genocide. Religion is CLOSED, it is NOT open. All you Jesus believing idiots are bowing down to Satan, because Jesus never existed. All you morons will only stop believing these ridiculous fairy tales when you get a bullet through the head. That's the only way you can be cured of your brainwashed illness.

  • Kierstal

    LOL. You talk about christian scripture and ideals, and in the same paragraph talk about karma, which is a concept that originated in Indian religions (hinduism, buddhism, etc.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma
    How thick can you possibly be?

  • walkindalight

    Article should be renamed: Scientists prove that they are so biased and afraid of being controlled or made to look like idiots, that they accuse people of faith as being controlled and stupid.

  • MILE

    It took them "five years of dedicated research" to come to this conclusion…?!

  • Rachel Cook

    I studied all the human sciences informally for at least 30 years. Anthropology, textual criticism, history, theology, past and present, comparative religions, you name it. The end result-I became an atheist. What came first religion or government? It's a trick question: they are the same thing in that they have the same goals- control the masses in order to pillage the weak minded. The study is correct- religious books are nothing more than control modalities. Interesting how religion employs circular logic to keep up the ruse. What's really interesting is how many sheep still buy into it.

  • Blake Blake

    This article is utter nonsense written to control pipo who are controlled by religion. If you can't prove spirituality you can't prove God. At the end of the day, we all believe something, whether religion nonsense or atheist garbage.

  • Lucky

    and where exactly is it written what jesus said?

  • Anonymous

    beautifful and my truth as well

  • jon

    Read the book of Revelation. It is the last book in the bible which predicts that you will not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast. It is occurring right now. The answer to the planned world economic problem will be the mark of the beast. If there comes a time when your government forces you to take the mark of die, do not take the mark which was written about 2000 years ago.
    The New Testament Jesus gave two important messages: Love your neighbors as you love yourselves and The kingdom of heaven is within. God gave you freewill, but warned of consequences of your actions (karma). God does not want to control you, God wants you to love and learn. Just as a parent teaches a child and guides them, the New Testament was written to replace the old testament and to preach the Kingdom of God through Jesus Christ and guide them.

  • Kafir

    They can't all be right. But they all can be wrong.

  • BVice

    There isn't a need for a research project to determine that the Bible is nonsense. All you need to do is open the Bible and read it. Incest, slavery, talking bushes and snakes, ritual killing, etc. It really does make for a good fictional read. If you truly believe its a historical document then go ahead and punch yourself in the face as hard as you can…you deserve it.

  • Justin

    all religion are controlled writing used to pursued people trying to guide the the right way, but its translation and the measures taken to it are wrong, which drive some people do die because of it, plus some people u read this might continue with their believes, but i can not blame them there are some supernatural or illusion occurring which drove them into a complete believe (but overall the religion works just that as humans some of us are born idiots using it the wrong way) it is plain to see that it is man made tactics, the books consist of many mistakes

  • oli

    i don't believe in organised religion especially Christianity and he is right it is to control people but you cant just slate thousands of peoples believes and say there all wrong and your right. there are a lot of good ethics taught in Hinduism Buddhism and a lot of other religions who ever wrote this is a twat and is trying to control people them self! go fuck your self Dr Sanreso

  • Zack B Zack

    Not another Davinci Code!! I guess in 2015 someone will become a billionaire.

  • lorents

    the bible and most all religious books are not total nonsense. they are filled with alchemical allegories wrapped up in insignificant events in history. the religious books are masterpieces and contain all the knowledge(for those who have the inner eyes to see it) and secrets of endless material wealth and long healthy life. if one can decode the mystic alchemical allegories, and piece them together as they find them throughout the bible, they will never be poor and never will be sick. this is the real code in the bible. i have found that eternal light that burns forever, never consuming itself.

  • Mike

    Holy crap dude. You are so freakin' wrong. Christianity isn't the one true religion!! The one true religion is the Napkin religion, because it is written so on this napkin! Duh!!!!

    (Christians are real fkn idiots)

  • hmm

    alright, i agree with this completely. leave all the christian's that comment alone though. so what if they're wrong and believe in all this biblical nonsense. they're all gonna die just like us :P

  • Voracious

    It is a good thing to question ones beliefs. Through questioning comes a better understanding of what it is you believe in, and why you believe it. To each his own. I choose to be Christian because it fits my morals and character, and because I wish to see the world a better place. Many people lose sight of who they are and what they believe, both religious and atheist, because they are trying to prove something that shouldn't need to be proven. Maybe pages like this are exactly what people need to develop who they are. I suggest you read more of them.

  • fedupwithidiots

    Great retort, you uneducated retard!

  • Conor

    Personally I'm more worried about how long it'll take before people work out that most text books on economic theory are concocted ideologically driven nonsense rather than some sort of revealed metaphysical eternal truths.

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsacramentalsocialists.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F12%2F18%2Fcapitalism-as-religion%2F&h=mAQG9eBBqAQFPnxLI1LayYxFcQYdKjzC13CnNLFE9Rc-6Hw

  • fedupwithidiots

    And this is exactly the problem. People like you picking and choosing what they are going to take and not take from certain readings. This is a reason, not the only but a good one, religion and the belief in god continues… as long as idiots, pastors, priests, and religious fanatics everywhere pick and choose which portions they want to believe and omit or distort the rest. The wool will remain over the eyes of the weak-minded populace. I'll leave this open for retort! I'm looking forward to it!

  • Jason

    Whoever wrote this really knows something and i have to say ever since i was a child i knew there was no jesus my parents would take me to church and i just knew that it was not feasable that any of the crap the pastor spouted was ever true or real. there are still adults now who talk about jesus and the bible as if it were fact aand i truly cant nbelieve it.

  • jesus was a conman

    pull your head out of your arse ,all religion is , is to control what people think and do anyone who believes in this religious crap needs to wake up , you blame the devil when something goes wrong and this so called GOD WORKS in mysterious ways , that is the biggest load of horse shit i've ever heard

  • lalaland

    Good try at bending something to meet your personal beliefs. :/

  • GoodByeJonny

    Who made the heavens and earth? No one. That is similar to asking who made this tree, no single person made it. It created itself from smaller particles and molecules from the earth.

    God Bless you, and may He guide your ignorant soul into truthfulness.

  • Gpressnps

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  • Anonymous

    All Organised Religions are Complete and Utterless Bull…Bottomline. Ain't no jesus coming back, so while you looking in the sky, the Government is using you up until u die.

  • Anonymous

    believers are all stupid to me and I usually play them on their own beliefs and be laughing at them behind their back

  • Venk

    When you were born you dint have a thing and came into this world butt naked and when you die you are not going to take a thing, but it is funny that how we fight and argue during this interim period…

    how much ever we all fight there is going to be no colclusion for this topic… and this is the truth!

    Peace out folks!

  • Human Angel

    I don't think the article is saying there is no God nor that Jesus didn't exist. It is saying that much of it has been distorted and left out by man who intended and still does to control people out of greed and power for control and that we have been mislead by much of it's teachings. Jesus said I am not which you are not. Meaning we are all children of God. Hell is a man made belief created to keep us in control out of fear of God. God is not a punishing God but an unconditional loving God. We were not put here and given free will by God to be punished for it therefore we are allowed to make mistakes without being damned for it. Most of our hell is in our karma and right here on earth. This article is not striking against religion unless one is in fear of it, for God says, fear not, I am with you. Jesus even stated that the kingdom of heave was in each of us-it is not a destination but a state of mind and when in that state of mind you will reap your rewards–karma-you will reap what you sow. They murdered Jesus because He came to teach us this and even He asked God to forgive them for they know not what they do. All truths will be known in time and it is to each his own. It is to us to forgive them and stay on our path. God will lead us through. Why would one ever think they are separate from God if created by God and of God? It's not possible that God would create anything bad. God is everywhere in everyone and everything. Look around if you want to see God for it is all God in manifestation. WE are ONE.

  • Ace

    "Faith" is NOT fine. You believe in air because you can physically feel it, rationally deduce it, and can witness it in definitive action. There is no "faith" involved in believing in AIR!

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  • Seriously

    This is a joke right? "Seducing spirits" Love it!

  • Joe Smith

    It is pretty obvious that most christians neither read history nor have read the bible cover to cover because if they did they would know that the Jesus myth contradicts itself so many time that it is just a collection of pious edits… God (if she exists) would never make that mistake. Paul states categorically that he received his version of christianity from revelation not by any man ( including the apostles, one of whom is stated in the bible as the brother of christ )… he also states that he is a complete liar ( correlates nicely withone of the dead sea scrolls description of him ) because he says that he pretended to those outside of the law (moses law) to be outside the law and to those who followed the law (aka the apostles) he pretended to follow the law etc… This is the man who founded the church and all it's main precepts… so a complete BS artist (by his own words) laid the foundations for the most corrupted religion on the planet… scary really.
    I can already see the responses now… Satan made me write this? You are truly stupid and pathetic… There are many things that we can't see or touch but creationists are both blind and deaf to anything that does not fit in their claustrophobically small world.
    If you have the guts then read a few of Daniel T Unterbrinks books… plus Josephus… plus Tacitus… and lets not forget… the bible… Acts is the most amusing of the entire catalog of pious edits… oh… and when you finish that have a look at the council of Nicaea in 325ad to see just how much the word of "god" has been edited.

  • Christian Crusaders

    that book is written by satan

  • Frederick Dawes

    Christianity is the cause of the most misery in the history of mankind from your child abusing Catholic priests to your pedophile bishops.

    "The [Catholic] Spaniards in Mexico and Peru used to baptize Indian infants and then immediately dash their brains out; by this means they secured that these infants went to heaven."
    — Bertrand Russell

  • BELIEVER

    GOD BLESS US ALL!

  • Jesus

    Christians love to feel persecuted, so flog away.

  • to hell with you……

    Jesus died for your sins…are you to reject him? He was the only Son of God on this earth and Christian faith is the only true religion. If you do not believe in the Christian God and Trinity you are destined to burn in the hellfire for eternity THAT is the word of the Bible and the TRUTH.

    Satan is trying to destroy our beautiful religion right now. Sites like this vile evil abomination are the works of Lucifer himself. He will do anything to destroy the name of Jesus Our Lord. God help you all who read this article for it is there to cause you to question your faith. This is what the Devil wants….he wants you to question your belief in God and Our Savior JESUS.

    1 Timothy 4:1
    "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils."

  • Steven

    The Baha'i faith is homophobic and is therefore a load of nonsense.

  • James

    I believe in god and agree almost completely with this article. Maybe the author should look up the Baha'i faith and they would find that what they have written is completely backed up by the scriptures of Baha'i. Religions are stuck in their time, that is why the Baha'i faith, which is only 150 years old and believes in the harmony between science and religion whereby scientific knowledge is taken to be an explanation and true. Please look up all monotheistic religions before you criticize them all.

  • Kris Kringle

    ummmmm…you seem to be forgetting about a couple of processess such as transpiration and evaporation. Where do you think rain comes from? A bottomless watering can in heaven? :P

  • TimmyTom

    1)There are around 6 billion people now, 2 billion 20 years ago, and probably a million or so a thousand years ago, that means there were mere tens of thousands of people around when Jesus was alive. Therefore all of these numbers are trash, using a constant population of the planet.
    2) Once water is used, it is urinated out, evaporated, and rained down again. Replenishing the natural resource – water.
    In short – You've ignored the changing population of the world, the reintigration of the used water into the existing water supply, AND ignored rain.
    I am no aetheist. I Love G-d. But the JudeoChristian judgemental, mean, angry G-d is not the same as the Creator as I see Him/Her/Them/It/Us.

  • Reasonable Atheist

    I happen to agree with your thought that this article is poorly worded and uses phrasing detrimental to a scientific finding.

    But that doesn't mean the article (biased as it is) isn't TRUE. According to the all collected evidence (or lack thereof), there is no reason to believe the bible is anything but man-made.

    It would be wonderful to hold an actual, provable book containing the word of god. The fact that nothing like that has ever been found points rather impassively to its nonexistence. The parables in the bible resonate with bronze age knowledge and sensibility, further lending credence to its having been written by the hand of man, and thought up by the mind of man.

    Pity the lessons taught aren't laced with wiser insight. I think man could write a much better bible today.

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  • Christian Crusaders

    if BIBLE is not true why did you EXIST everything that is written in the scriptures has evidence, who made the heaven and earth? the sea and birds? the air that u breath and the water that u drink? dont say that they are magics that will appear alone, dont say that YOU appear alone by gravity, atoms and nucleus that is formed and joined together and some stupid scientific explaination? maybe u have been blind by the devil so that he has an accompany to to destroy mankind ang goes to terrifying HELL!!

  • THE LORD'S PROPHET *iSRAEL

    I AM THE LORD'S PROPHET **iSRAEL(ISAIAH 44:5) WHO WAS SENT BY GOD TO DESTROY THE WISDOM OF MAN(ISAIAH 29:14-16). THIS YEAR THE YEAR 2011 AS WAS LABELED BY MAN AND UNCHALLENGED BY THE MATHEMATICS COMMUNITY IS THE WRONG YEAR BECAUSE CHRIST WAS NO BORN +1AD. HE WAS BORN ZERO BC/AD. MATHEMATICALLY SIGNED NUMBERS HAVE A ZERO BETWEEN -BC AND +AD. SO 2011 IS ACTUALLY 2012. PLEASE READ (ISAIAH 29:14-16) IT SAYS THERE THAT THE WISDOM OF MAN WILL PERISH . THIS MONTH IS THE PROPHESIED DEC 21, 2012 END OF THE WORLD. THE WISDOM OF MAN MATHEMATICALLY DEAD AS GOD PROPHESIED.

  • Ancientreader

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  • stupid christians

    stupid christians!

  • Mark

    Believing something that you cannot see is fine, it's called faith, but comparing it to something vital (and provable in the form of molecules and other particles) such as oxygen is just… Eugh.

  • doy

    *facepalm

  • wiw

    i cant see God but i still believe, as long as i believe on the "AIR" that i cannot see, i believe in God..

  • TattooedSnakeLady

    @ TIMOTHY – 2000 years old huh?! WOW… so uhhhh… the earth was created AFTER jesus was born? interesting!!!

  • alvin

    this is the most stupid comment I've ever read

  • Mr. B

    Atheists: I don't believe
    Religous person: I do belive

    IDIOTS:
    "I WOULD LIKE TO PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST!"
    "GOD EXISTS BECAUSE BLA BLA BLA…"
    "WELL, ACCORDING TO SCIENCE BLA BLA BLA…"
    "THE BIBLE DOES SAY BLA BLA BLA…"
    "IF GOD DID EXIST BLA BLA BLA…"
    "THE WORLD WOULD BE BLA BLA BLA… IF THE GOD DIDN'T EXIST"

    PLEASE, IDIOTS! DON'T INCLUDE THE ATHEISTS AND THE RELIGOUS PEOPLE IN YOUR STUPID ARGUMENTS.

    I'm an atheist. I don't believe. Deal with it.

  • Matt

    Think about it: where does water go after it is processed through your body? I'm going to refer you to the scientific law that says matter can neither be created nor destroyed under normal circumstances. Further: less than 1% of Earth's water supply is "drinkable". Nice try, but you failed to use science in its fullest form and as it is meant to be used: to prove itself wrong. Science just looks for new information, the only way it is biased, is to think that any idea brought forth which challenges a new idea is WRONG first, not that it is CORRECT.

  • Nick

    …. You are fucking stupid.

  • Gregg

    Those who think like you so do; and also the scientists involved in this research, have stopped within humanistic and imprisoning horizons. Fact is: man's 'G/gods' are man-made entities, However, they are produced and/or copyrighted so to speak from a Knowledge of Life's True Natures of Being, which go beyond the boundaries of these discussions.

  • Anthony Wills

    Here is definate proof for you dumb atheists proving that the earth is only 6000 years old as the Bible says. read it and weep losers.

    http://twitpic.com/7z17zc

  • blaise

    biologists have already determined how everything came to evolve, geologists determined how the planet came into formation, astrophysicists determined how our galaxy and the rest of the universe formed. where is your earth-painter now?

    then you say it all must have come from /somewhere/, God created the Big Bang and it went from there. but wait a minute, you had already passed that up and said your God "created" and "painted" the earth as it is now. you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. surely as soon as we forget that first point you will go right back to saying how wonderful your god is who created he earth.

    so where did your God come from? you tell us it is ridiculous that something could come from nothing, so your god must have created the universe. still you don't think it's ridiculous that your god came from nowhere. so tell us how that happened. did your god create itself before itself even existed? logical impossibility. it could not even exist later on then go back and create itself. none of that is logically possible. what created your god? you have no answer because your entire point is to make up some story that you have a god that did everything. to say something is superior to your god (having made it) is antithesis. you wouldn't even begin to answer that because you're not actually trying to make sense, you're trying to lie.

    could you even admit that you were wrong about the universe coming from your god, and after 7000 years of humanity and religion and science and astronomy and so on, we all simply still do not know where it came from?

    what is so hard about that?

    oh yes, you don't want to. that's what's hard about it.

  • Mack

    If he does exist then why is the world fucked up? If it is to test us, wouldn't he already know the outcome so there would be no need to test us? Why doesn't he show himself so that all this confusion would be ended? Does he deliberately taunt our beliefs so he could punish people for not believing when he is clearly the one to blame? What an arrogant prick. If he does show his existence through those little miracle things (image appears on bread etc.), wouldn't he, who has all the power in the universe, be able to do more than those simple things? Someone who claims such grand power would also need a grand proof.

    Or maybe… just maybe… HE DOES NOT EXIST
    And maybe someday, we will be able to build a perpetual motion machine. There is no limit as to what the human mind can accomplish. Even the Wright brothers themselves thought an airplane could not cross the Atlantic ocean.

    And to be published in 2015? Those of us who read this would probably have forgotten about this research in a month let alone three years.

  • peter knows

    The title states that Scientists have proved That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense. However, the whole artical is pure speculatien and reasoning worthy of a high schooler. Plus, words like idiocy, die-hard fantatics, nonsence, etc. take away any credibility from this artical. No serious Scientist would write such harsh words in order to prove a point. And lastly, the mere fact that the "entire" artical will be published in 2015 sugests that this artical is poor BS.

  • erick

    Is only a fool say's in his heart that there is no God. There cannot be builderings without a builder or builders. There cononot be a painting/s without a painter/s. There cannot be any kind of design without a designer/s. Surely, there cannot be creation without a creator. The Creator/designer of the World is,God Almighty, The King of all Kings and the Lord of all Lords.

  • galileo

    Besides….who knows better ?

    The priests and child abuses ?
    The pope and sorri ?
    Mother Teresa and her memoirs ?
    "Subservient poodle" ?
    You ?
    Satan begone !
    f.o. !
    Dont forget the tithes !

  • good

    Holyshit, the world did not end this year after the previous prophesy ?

    WHO SAID ?

    YOU SAID ?

  • Hain

    The laws of thermodynamics and quantum mechanics are nothing to do with man made religions or gods.

  • Darcy

    People were loving before your book was written and they will continue to do so after it is gone as well.

  • Leni

    The most irrefutable proof I have ever seen that god does exist. If god didn't exist you could build a perpetual motion machine! You can't do it, therefore God exist.

  • kylee

    You guys Are all dumb how cares if there is a god or not…i am a huge non believer but I don't go out of my way to hurt peoples feelings and try to convert them to anything

  • religion

    Who gave you this knowlege,who created you,who run this universe,their has to to be some one who control our birth,death and other nature of life,if all are by it self then can you produce a machine which dosent use fuel.no we can not produce a universal machine ,how can then we say their is no God and the books are not from Him.If we study all book it is guidence for a peaceful,practical life for all human being.It is a man.

  • meadows

    HOW VERY STRANGE!
    I started reading the article and wanted to see some solid reasoning. but what i find is mere scrap, with a promise to publish the detailed article in 2015.
    if you still need so much time to research please don't waste time of others by making cursory remarks. Let the research be completed first and then tell us what you have got please don't hurt the feelings of those who believe in their respective books to be divine.
    those friends who believe in books brought by MOSES or JESUS please refrain from attacking each others scripture till the time you don't have some thing solid to say. Being follower of Moses you may think of Jesus that Christianity and Islam are copies of your religion but don't forget that they also say the same but claim that they are the ones who follow the true teachings not you and to confirm just read their scripture just for knowledge sake. People usually remain limited to cultivated ideas, don't be one of them, open your mind just accept my this request and you would be surprised even those who have inspired to write this article/ news. just go through the history of Qur'an, read its translation, see how much respect it gives to MOSES as well JESUS and how it covers all the times (past, present and future) as well as facts revealed by the science recently.
    Just be impartial and if you don't agree please give us answer to just one question, if this book is not divine, who has written it. it a challenge for your intellect and impartiality so answer should be supported with sound logic/reasons. GOOD LUCK
    THE TRUTH MIGHT BE SHOCKING FOR ALL OF YOU.

  • Toni

    Jesus was walking on ice, the sea of Galilee froze up and Jesus started skating.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4881108.stm

  • Robert Easting

    Does anyone here believe that Jesus walked on water?

  • Dave Rojmin

    ..and let me guess you get to have sex with 72 virgins for eternity.. ;-) Where can I join with your club?

  • Bishop

    y'all really believe that there is a god in the sky that cares about you? (p.s. it's the vacuum of space above you witch will kill you instantly if u were in it)

  • Sammy

    Judaism was the first monotheistic religion. The Tora was the first book. All other religions like Chritianity and Islam came from the Jewish religion. We are the only one true religion and this is the word of God YHVH. Moses was the only prophet and when he went up Mt Sinai God spoke to him. Quit with all the fighting, we are all brothers and sisters. We are all part of the same tribe. Shalom my friends, you all came from Judaism.

  • TIMOTHY

    WHAT DO THESE SCIENTIST KNOW HAVE THEY READ THE BIBLE? THEY EVEN SAY THE EARTH IS MORE THEN 2000 YEARS OLD. THEY SAY THESE THINGS BUT THEY DONT BACK UP THEIR IDEAS. WE ARE IN THE END OF TIMES RIGHT NOW I SUPPOSE THEY WILL SAY THAT JESUS WILL NOT COME BACK IN THE RAPTURE. THEY WILL BE THE ONES LEFT ON EARTH TO BURN IN TERROR AS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED AND TAKEN TO HEAVEN. SCINTISTS SUCK THEY ARE BLASPHIMERS AND HERITICS THEY SHOULD WIL ALL BE TAKEN DOWN TO HELL WHERE SATAN WILL WELCOME THEM.

    REVELATION 21:8
    "BUT THE COWARDLY, THE UNBELIEVING, THE VILE, THE MURDERERS, THE SEXUALLY IMMORAL, THOSE WHO PRACTICE MAGIC, THE IDOLATORS AND ALL LIARS – THEIR PLACE WILL BE IN THE FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR. THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH."

  • Abdul Rehman Bhatti

    All Islamic books are holy books and no body has right to say anything about these books, muslims never say anything wrong for any other religion's religious books and therefore we are not allowing anybody to say any wrong comments to our Islamic books. The people saying nonsense to these books are basically nonsense themselves and MAD, it is our strong believe that these nonsense people will be punished at the day of judgement and no body will be able to save them.

  • durka durka muhammet jihad

    Peanut Butter Upon Him.
    survey: who believes in magical sky jawas?

  • Vincent DeLuca

    Silvana, you ask such easy questions!

    Every verse you cites was from the OLD covenant between God the Father and the Jewish people. Jesus came to establish a NEW covenant between Himself (as the Father's representative) and the Jewish people, but the Jews did not recognize Him as their Messiah. The NEW covenant replaces the OLD covenant by the very act of sacrificial love; Jesus gave His life to atone for the sins of mankind. John 15:13, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." And that's exactly what Jesus said, and did; laid down His life for us.

    The NEW covenant is documented in the Bible:
    Lk 22:15-20; "He (Jesus) said to them, "I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer, for, I tell you, I shall not eat it (again) until there is fulfillment in the kingdom of God." Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and said, "Take this and share it among yourselves; for I tell you (that) from this time on I shall not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes." Then he took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me." And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup is the NEW covenant in my blood, which will be shed for you."

    The new covenant established LOVE as the basis for a relationship with God and neighbor:
    Matthew 22:36; "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"

    No "cherry picking" on my part, just using the NEW covenant as the basis of my first post.

  • Ghaith

    The Quraan is the only word of God. Muhammed (PBUH) was the last prophet on earth. We respect other religions but you must understand that Islam is the last and only religion.

  • Silvana

    Vincent instead of cherry picking verses that will prove your point why don't you share with us all verses in the Bible that call to killings, enslavement etc.

    Numbers 31:17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

    Psalms 137:9Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

    Hosea 9:16Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

    Exodus 21:17And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

    Matthew 15:1Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

    Deuteronomy 13: 13Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

    I couyld go on and on citing this type of "loving verses"

    You think these verses are the expression of timless love?

  • Satan begone

    Jesus died for our sins. . . . so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him. Hebrews 9:28

    Do not deny the Trinity as the Son of God loves you, as the Lord created everything on earth, the Bible is the true word of God.

    But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

  • A

    Nice comment! Nice guy :-)

  • Vincent DeLuca

    Science speak, according the author: “There is no rational or scientific way that organised religions can have a modicum of truth or factual reality because of the very reason that these books are entombed in the time that they were written.”

    Christian speak, according to the Author: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:36-40.

    It isn't difficult to see who speaks in a timeless and inspired manner and who speaks in a fashion bound by time; science requires the passage of time to make its measurements and test hypotheses. A hundred years from now, the science of today will be outdated; obsolete. But love is never obsolete, except maybe for a scientist.